Rui Hachimura Discussion: Clipper

i see why you'd say that, but i disagree for a few reasons.

all the top 4 RFAs are much better, two-way basketball players than rui. all of them are younger and still have some room to improve as well. none of them have ranked near the league's absolute cellar in important metrics for multiple years. even on an overpay, they'll all be moveable (e.g., broken into two smaller decent players, etc.) if it didn't work.

we also already know that rui doesn't fit super well here (pika has furnished some promptly-ignored evidence here). two of the RFAs are the exact archetype at center, and one is the exact archetype at wing (i'm much iffier on eason, and i've never said we should pursue him).

as for inflicting pain on competitors, i'm viewing it from the stance that we're kind of already screwed. meaning that pre-agency has hurt us, and the teams that are going to dump good players for nothing aren't going to dump them to us. if we're going to be dumpster diving eventually anyway, why not take huge swings at every single one of these guys before we do it. it will literally cost nothing if all those teams match. this year's danny green will still be there when the dust settles.

i don't know. in the end, i just think almost all of our rotation players save the two that have big contracts are guys you can just find (not counting lebron--you can't find him, but he's retiring in a year and you have to deal with that either way).

and again, i'm ok bringing the boys back, but i understand blowing it all up.

 

I’m a big Rui supporter, but I know that our team HAS to start replacing our one way players with ones who aren’t. For me, no one is un-movable except for Luka.
If Rui’s not brought back, or signs with someone else while Rob is swinging for the fences, I’ll understand. More importantly, I think Luka will too.

 

funny thing is i really like rooting for rui. doesn't sound like it in my posts, but he seems like a good dude who's a hard worker and has made the most of his gifts. i would have no problem pulling for him going forward. i just totally understand not letting him influence the summer strategy.

 

If I have to choose between keeping Lebron or Rui, there are two scenarios.

For ticket sales and being potentially better now, I pick Lebron.

For flexibility on future team building, I pick Rui.

Reliable shooter. Terrible rebounder. Playoff performer. As long as you fit the right parts around him, I think you're good.

 

On Lowe's pod today he said its unlikely based on what he's hearing that Rui is back with us

 

i mean, his agent literally steered a draftee away from us last week.

 

if we lose another valuable asset for nothing.......it's just a tragedy. Inconceivable.

 

My understanding is he's leaning toward the Spurs. Actually would like to keep him now that we know LeBron is gone. We will know soon.

 

i think an argument can be made that dean wade and mamukaleshvili are actually better players than rui and should come cheaper. whether we can get them is another question.

 

Definitely not fixated any one in particular. Just want to make sure we are able to replace anyone who walks out the door.

 

I believe the reporter who claimed Veesar’s agents didn’t want him in LA ended up walking back that part of the claim and seemed to soften it by simply saying Atlanta swooped in before it could get to that point.

At least that’s how I interpreted this “clarification”

 

yeah, that's a weak walkback, tbh. teams were complying until the agent said they didn't have to. i don't believe people wouldn't just pick up the phone and call the agent to make sure. we hear about this stuff all the time. it's how we got reaves.

 

The thing is why didn't we trade up when we really wanted him?

Why wait and do this after all that took place?

 

In addition to SA, another team showing interest in him

 

Harris>rui

Detroit seems in over their heads, tbh

 

Nah, Tobias is even more fool's gold than Rui

 

John Collins would be better.

So would Sandro.

Really tough to justify paying Rui to just be a glorified 3 point shooter.

Needed to do more defensively and as a rebounder. If he was able to grab 7-8 boards per game and blocked at least 1.2 shots per game, he'd be worth it. I mean, 10 games in the playoffs last season playing 40 minutes per game and the guy only averaged 4 rebounds per game? Just not good value there.

 

i think if they replace harris with rui, it will be a downgrade.

now, the spurs need someone almost exactly like him, and his flaws will be completely covered by the rest of their roster. i'm not as sure in detroit, where the only shot creation is cade.