D'Angelo Russell Discussion: All Time Lakers Season 3 Point Shooter

Discussion in 'Lakers Discussion' started by The Original 81, Jun 25, 2015.

  1. karacha

    karacha Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    8,538
    Likes Received:
    27,668
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Yeah, this is pretty impressive. We won't need a "resident cap-ologist" anymore. We will be able to integrate an AI engine in the forum and get answers quickly. In the end, we'll also replace most, if not all posters with AI. :p
     
    Barnstable, Cookie and LTLakerFan like this.
  2. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    35,406
    Likes Received:
    59,123
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Offline
    I nominate sirron to do all our cap work henceforth …. do we have a second? First though have to know if he has an irrational bias toward or about the alleged but never prosecuted knife assault by Rob Pelinka upon one Magic Johnson.
     
    Cookie likes this.
  3. FrontOfJersey22

    FrontOfJersey22 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2021
    Messages:
    4,737
    Likes Received:
    8,142
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    There is no way on any plane of reality that the Spurs will ever help us acquire a “star.” Also, I didn’t see what they were sending out in this deal.
    It is a very interesting exercise, though.
     
    sirronstuff likes this.
  4. 52years

    52years - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2023
    Messages:
    386
    Likes Received:
    415
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Offline
    I don’t see any team willing to hard cap themselves with a S&T for DLO.What value will he have if you sign him for one year and every body knows you don’t want him?
    He’s going to opt out most likely and if he does let him walk.If he doesn’t immediately get rid of him.The ntpmle is more valuable than he is at this point in team building and financial
     
  5. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    26,649
    Likes Received:
    72,427
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    teams that aren't currently competing don't really have to worry that much about the hard cap, imo.

    to a bad team? some. to a contending team? almost negative value--especially if he's the best player you have at his position!


    he's in control here. he knows we'll move him if he opts in, so he'll only do it if he knows we'll move him to a spot that helps his future prospects. the good news is that i think there are some bad teams that can eat his one-year salary and flip him at the deadline for a 1st rounder when he finally transitions into a difference-making sixth man for a playoff team.

    disagree here. if we want the full ntpmle, we should just sign dlo to a 3 year full mle deal like we did gabe. he's more valuable than gabe (or schroder), and that's the going price.

    anyway, i'm at: sign to lower dollar/long-term deal or just move on. not sure i think there's a great scenario wherein he walks for nothing, though. he's better than what our money can buy.
     
    lakerjones, Barnstable and 52years like this.
  6. 52years

    52years - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2023
    Messages:
    386
    Likes Received:
    415
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Offline
    You don’t replace him with free agency you upgrade via trade then build depth with the ntpmle and MLE.It would also make it easier to resign Max because they would be a lot further under the tax
     
  7. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    26,649
    Likes Received:
    72,427
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    i'm confused maybe--if you use him in trade, you bring back his salary or close to it, so you don't have the mle to use. you also only get one mle-tax payer or non-taxpayer. the tpmle is smaller than the room exception now and less than half the ntmle.
     
  8. 52years

    52years - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2023
    Messages:
    386
    Likes Received:
    415
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Offline
    To be clear if he walks you use Rui,Gabe,Vando etc. to replace him(not a high bar imo) you then use the NTPMLE on more than one player.
     
    abeer3 likes this.
  9. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    26,649
    Likes Received:
    72,427
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    ok, but then you're out 1-2 forwards with size. you may have traded three or four rotation players for two in the end, right?

    as far as low cost to replace dlo--take a look at his regular season production, then look at others who produce similarly and what they're paid. he's actually underpaid until the playoffs start. and in the west, you still have to get there. there may only be two bad teams in the west next year (utah and portland).
     
    LTLakerFan and FrontOfJersey22 like this.
  10. FrontOfJersey22

    FrontOfJersey22 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2021
    Messages:
    4,737
    Likes Received:
    8,142
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    We are basically not going to be able to improve much unless we can S&T DLo.
    Just trading three of our rotation players and pics for either Trae or Mitchell also makes us a worse team. We would just be another PHX Suns team.
     
    LTLakerFan likes this.
  11. 52years

    52years - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2023
    Messages:
    386
    Likes Received:
    415
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Offline
    There are a few realistic trades to make that wouldn’t cost you 3-4 players.There’s two guys in Atlanta alone (none named Trae).When I assess this team there are two problems that are glaring to me and keep them from meeting their potential.
    1.They lack the physicality to rebound.The multiple extra possessions they gave other teams was alarming.
    2.They are a slow footed team.They lack the quickness and athleticism to compete for 50/50 balls especially in the backcourt.
     
  12. JSM

    JSM - Lakers Legend -

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    16,987
    Likes Received:
    66,189
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Orlando linked to DLO. There's been speculation based on their cap space, but this is the first sourced tie between the two.


     
    sirronstuff likes this.
  13. Slick2021

    Slick2021 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2021
    Messages:
    7,800
    Likes Received:
    6,754
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Reliable..that's the issue.
     
    Cookie, abeer3 and sirronstuff like this.
  14. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    26,649
    Likes Received:
    72,427
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    yeah, it's interesting that banchero describes like, tj mcconnell and not dlo, and then the story's like: they want dlo.
     
    Cookie likes this.
  15. Slick2021

    Slick2021 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2021
    Messages:
    7,800
    Likes Received:
    6,754
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I will puke if the Rockets get Donovan Mitchell!!
     
  16. Slick2021

    Slick2021 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2021
    Messages:
    7,800
    Likes Received:
    6,754
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    :Kobepuking:
     
  17. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    26,649
    Likes Received:
    72,427
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    they definitely have the assets to make that happen.
     
  18. Slick2021

    Slick2021 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2021
    Messages:
    7,800
    Likes Received:
    6,754
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Stop it man!!!
     
  19. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    26,649
    Likes Received:
    72,427
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    meh; i know we aren't getting mitchell, and tbh, he's not a franchise-altering presence. if it were luka or ant that everyone was going to outbid us for, i'd be sad.
     
    pika1708 likes this.
  20. 52years

    52years - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2023
    Messages:
    386
    Likes Received:
    415
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Offline
    Ask Brooklyn if they’ll take DLO for Day’Ron Sharpe
     
    abeer3 and Slick2021 like this.

Share This Page