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  1. abeer3

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    yeah, pretty much? particularly when the deal and the investments are both like, the size of nba contracts.

    i'm guessing the next cba will have language to similar effect, and no, it won't be hard to manage for players or owners to just avoid this.
     
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    in other news, bufkin--the guy we supposedly targeted in the jhs draft debacle--was just dumped to bkn for cash or something.
     
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    Neither the owners, or the player's union, are going to sign off on that bro.
     
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    More like a whopper burger. Like Ballmer telling whopper’s. :LLLLLebronlaughing:
     
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    You don't have to be a publicly-listed company to have your financial statements audited.

    Aspiration was audited by KPMG because they wanted funding. Investors don't invest without adequate auditing.

    2021- Clippers and Aspiration make a deal.
    2022- KPMG quits auditing for Aspiration citing likelihood of fraudulent behavior.
    2023- Ballmer invests $10 million into Aspiration

    Hmmmm, makes total sense... Ballmer never saw anything suspect of KPMG, a top four leading auditing firm in the world claiming Aspiration was likely engaging in fraud? So him and coincidentally, another Clippers owner invested $12 more million dollars AFTER the fact that KPMG dropped them as a client for potential fraud?



    On another note:

    Kawhi's uncle complained that they didn't receive nearly $2 million from Aspiration. A few days later, Clippers minority owner, Dennis Wong, sends Aspiration $2 million.... Nine days later after that payment made by Wong, guess who got their payment? Kawhi's uncle.

    Guess who Dennis Wong is? Ballmer's college roommate dating back to 1970. Guess who used to work for Aspiration? Dennis Wong's daughter.

    The fact Dennis Wong is a 1% shareholder of Clippers and is probably one of Ballmer's best friends is already suspect in this situation... You're telling me Wong just randomly donated $2 million to Aspiration without Ballmer knowing? b*******. Former Aspiration finance employees described Wong's investment as "shocking and irrational" because the firm was already struggling at that time. One employee stated, "It felt like the payment was made to make Kawhi whole." I wonder how much of that had to do with the Clippers feeling they would get blackmailed by Kawhi's uncle and felt they had to do it?

    All this talk about Ballmer being a victim is laughable. Even if Ballmer was serious about investing in Aspiration, it doesn't change the fact that his intention to invest with them was to get Kawhi paid... But IMO, what happened was Ballmer knew he would get exposed, received advice to rat out Aspiration as a whistleblower to the SEC to cover his a**, and then played the "I got duped" card and "look, I was the one who reported them so it wasn't me!" act.
     
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    well, for most of us.
     
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    the thing slick posted contains no sourced news, fake or otherwise, and is purely speculation.

    yeah, just like that fake reaves trade the other day. who were we moving him for? keegan murray in sacramento? yeah, sure, bro. maybe if ellis and carter both came attached the discussion opens...

    there's just no real nba news right now. so it's ballmer and baseless stuff. or if you're some of us, all baseless stuff!
     
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    Yeah the Keegan Murray trade.

    :Shaqdisappointed:
     
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    This is huge. Is there a link you can post that mentions this?
     
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    Steve Ballmer! Book him!

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    Yes KPMG realised that Aspiration was cooking the books and backed out.

    EDIT: Also as an internal auditor, KPMG isn't allowed to share their findings with others at this time. It would be against client relations. So even if they backed out, it's not like they were shouting it from the rooftops for everyone to know.

    I think you need to understand the following: I'm not trying to protect Ballmer or say he is innocent. I'm playing devil's advocate because that's the realistic view of the world.

    Ballmer invests another $10m into the company? You know what he'll say to that, myself and my due diligence team though they were telling the truth and the investment looked like a good one - they defrauded me.

    Kawhi got paid 1.77m after Wong invested 1.9m? Aspiration had short term liabilities they needed cash flow help with, as a good partner we put up funds to bridge the gap.

    If Ballmer is going to get disciplined, there has to be an appetite from either the owners or the players for this to happen. Not just from the media and fans. No regular basketball fan is going to care about this in 3 months. We may care, but we post on a discrete basketball forum for our favourite team - we're the weird minority.
     
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    1) I understand what you're trying to do. I think the argument for Ballmer in any case is weak. I've already stated that the NBA will have difficulty pinning intent on Ballmer but can still issue a punishment that is akin to Ballmer making an intent to prove an example while clearing Ballmer of any charges.

    2) Who cares what Ballmer said? The NBA can act on suspicion of it. Just cause he said something doesn't mean the NBA can't make their own decision. I mean, what is Ballmer supposed to say? His only option is play stupid.

    3) Short-term liabilities of any company goes to the employees and creditors first. The fact Kawhi was paid that money is a counterargument to that weak retort. Was Wong even an investor of the company? Why is he making payments to them, then? What *good* partner are we referring to?

    4) IDK if Ballmer will personally be disciplined. But I believe the NBA will go down hard on the Clippers, the Clippers will agree to some charges against them, and they will try to brush this under the rug.

    I don't think you have stated whether or not you believe Ballmer intended or didn't intend to circumvent the cap. The only thing Ballmer has going for him, as you know with your legal expertise, is to play possum.

    The case against him, on the other hand, is filled with numerous inconsistencies that simply do not add up to it just being a bad business deal gone wrong. When you consider the individuals involved, the payment terms, etc., We can play this fictitious trial here to appease your profession all you want but we are all seeing it for what it is: A rich guy who thought he found a loophole and would never be caught.

    FYI, Ballmer was fined for doing this just months after he purchased the team trying to get DeAndre Jordan endorsements... I'm sure your legal expertise would tell you that precedence matter here.
     
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