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  1. abeer3

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    *puts on fire suit*

    FALSE. lebron was named to an all-nba team. he did not produce at all-nba levels last year. and he won't going forward. his defense has dropped off, and this matters a lot.

    every time someone throws his all-nba despite age stuff in my face, i think of al horford having about 60% of his impact at close to his age and at 20% of his salary with the same health concerns (and not s***ting on the team via his agent every odd tuesday).

    sorry, lebron isn't that anymore. he's that for a game here and there, but night in, night out, no way. not true. in the west, you have to make the playoffs first. then you can hope you can pull the trump card.

    you're acting as though lebron hasn't succumbed to injury of some sort in like, half the years he's been here, and that older players aren't more likely to get hurt. his injuries have been soft tissue old guy stuff. i know; i've had them.

    again, when you're paid 10-15 per and can be mothballed like steven adams, fine. but when you're a load-bearing pillar of the salary structure, it's nuts, man.

    keon ellis and john collins split lebron's salary next year. how much worse are we? i think people really are missing how much luka just supersedes all the stuff that killed us previously when lebron went down. luka can carry an offense, no problem. much better than a 40 year old lebron does. this is another fact of existence. the luka trade changed everything, and we're still reeling from it. but it's a positive. it means...no player option for lebron.

    the team that just won the finals had one primary offensive engine, one secondary offensive engine, and athletic defenders out the wazoo.

    if he's silly enough to ask out he will. his salary is so big and the league is so understocked of terrible contracts that we'd be ok. probably better than if he just walked, tbh.

    abeer is grasping at 100 million instead of 50, like anyone would...if it were offered. still waiting on any plausible explanation for why you'd give up 50 million willingly.

    this is f***ing hilarious.
     
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  2. abeer3

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    lol, if this was the lakers, it would be armageddon.
     
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    Well said. Facts.
     
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    I’ll just put it in perspective when LeBron had Wade and Bosh he had a bunch of fill the roster role players. I’ll give you Allen.

    but Birdman Batteir Miller. He had no wiggle room.

    with Luka and Ayton he’s got a flurry of more then qualified role players. Reaves Knect Vincent Hachimura Vando LaRavia James Aou Hayes
     
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    bucks supposedly interested in westbrook now.

    is his new nickname "the death rattle"?
     
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    tell him that.
     
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    I was waiting for their fathers to come on and say, kids, just shut up and leave your ma and me alone!!!

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    Now shut up and give me the remote!!!!
     
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    Weezy Moderator Staff Member

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    LeBron was 26-29 years old in Miami, he’s going to be 41 this season, it is not the same. If he were 26-29 and had this roster it would be different. I don’t think it’d be enough to win it all, but we sure wouldn’t he a first round exit.
     
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    Weezy Moderator Staff Member

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    Posting this, but it is Irwin, so yeah, probably pulling it out of his fat a**

     
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    f***ing hilarious? That's all you got? Now YOU have determined, that Lebron really isn't All NBA now? When did you become this authority? So who do you replace him with and why?

    WTF does Al Horford and his salary have to do with LeBron man? So taking that lame take forward, does that apply to ANYONE else that made All NBA, or is that only for James?

    I stated 4 separate times , why not taking a 1+1 doesn't mean jack, if you are thinking about retiring. You can't come up with any rebuttal but, I would have taken it, so Lebron should have too?

    Ooh..now Keon Ellis and John Collins are good enough, because we have Luka? This s*** continues to get even more ridiculous. Keon Ellis? The kid that avg 8 pts 2rebs and 1.5 assists? What is he the new superman "lockdown defender " of your choice? John Collins? The guy that you were just talking about, that wasn't really much of an upgrade from Rui? FOH man..If Luka is that much of an elevator, why in the hell wouldn't he elevate the team with Ayton now? Sometimes you just be throwing up nonsense, claiming that it's perfectly logical!

    I'm not buying it today brother. NOPE
     
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    The Jokic contract extension decline is kind of puzzling. Jokic doesn’t come off as a I want all my money. 80 million???? 212 million is alot. And Jokic seems like a guy I just want to hoop and ride horses. Get my contract done. I want to go home. 212 million I got enough money.

    So he doesn’t seem like a LeBron or even a Gianiss let me get more when I get a full max.

    seems like he would be the guy extension now.

    which leads me to is really wanting to see how this new team looks and if they flop. If is there the chance he turns into the next Anthony Davis.

    cause he seems like a guy who won’t hold it to the chest. And just say I wanna play with Luka. I going to L.A. wouldn’t say trade me would just say I go there. Who knows could be nothing but interesting.

    if I was Luka I’d be hanging with him alot this summer.
     
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    Lebron was 19th in ESPN net points and something like 26th in LEBRON. When healthy he's still an All-NBA player
    In the playoffs he was maybe the best defensive player the Lakers had (yeah not a lot of competition for this lol but still)

    I think the issue for team building is can he stay healthy - there was a clear dropoff after teh groin injury. I don't see how anyone would question pre-injury Lebron was not an all-NBA player even though he coasts during the regular season. He lost the jumper which was working incredibly well for him after the injury and never full got it back consistently - different player at that point

    The problem for the Lakers is how do they get enough good players so that they can Al horford lebron: even with Luka they needed Lebron on defense of all things and that's a problem. One can blame Lebron's contract but this FO I just don't know. I guess I'm one of the few people left that really feels strongly that if you had given the lakers just 1-2 more competent players that they could have made the Finals at least the last few years. I don't blame the FO for the WB trade but letting Caruso walk, signing Nunn, re-signing another small Miami guard after Nunn, that JHS pick, going for minimals only at the C spot. With or without Lebron, I don't see a team that has had a vision of how to put a team together to really go forward since the bubble and post-bubble year. they seem on the right track this year but IMO this is the same thing they have done every year point the car in the right direction but not willing to hit the accelerator to go for it - always one or two pieces away.
     
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    You haven't mentioned jack about that 70M or 90M per season price tag though, I noticed.

    :Laugh:
     
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    90M per season is a lot of money, that will buy you a whole herd of horses bro!
     
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    i can't determine all-nba. i'm just saying guys who outperformed last year were left off the list. including his teammate, who supposedly had a down year, that was still substantially better.

    it has to do with aging players who maybe need management to be at their best.

    so someone says, i'll give you a dollar today. and you say, sure, i like a dollar.

    and they say, if you say yes right now, you come back tomorrow you get another dollar. if you don't, no biggie. you do you. but if you don't say yes right now, you may come back tomorrow and i may have a dollar or i may not.

    and you say, nah...i'm good. i just like one dollar.

    you haven't (and can't) answer this. and it's clearly tearing you up inside.


     
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    Lebron should earn a little bit more of that money and recruit. He can’t complain about the championship and compete if he isn’t doing his job to get the piece here.

    the roster is very complete damn near. If the Lakers sign Bradley Beal. It’s a wrap and I mean that.

    you go against OKC that’s a lot of firepower Minnesota that’s a lot of firepower.

    the team is loaded.

    Luka Beal

    LeBron Hachiumura

    Ayton


    In the playoffs that’s alot of scoring half court scoring three point shooting.

    the bench is ape s***.


    Reaves LaRavia

    James Hayes Vando Knect


    You got scoring and defense.

    or you can go

    Luka Reaves

    Lebron

    Vando

    Ayton

    and bring Hachimura and Beal off the bench.

    I think that’s a better championship shot for Beal than

    Milwaukee Golden State or Minnesota. I don’t think Golden state has the big.

    and I truly think we were a big away from beating Minnesota. And now our bench is set.

    and we still have the wildcard of Dielo Aou off the bench playing lock down defense. That’s a loaded team. Sometimes you just gotta go win the damn championship.
     
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    I didn't say anything about Lebron being the number 1 option. Where is this? That's you making up an argument to advance. I said Luka was top 5. How is that not All NBA? I don't beat around the bush, I would have said that Lebron is still the best player on the team. Show me where I said that.


    Back to this 1+1 stuff..sure that sounds logical, at 1st blush, until you add in, how you have been on a 3 season rant, about how Lebron is being selfish by doing that. Now hypocriticaly , this isn't a smart thing, since he didn't continue? Cutting to the chase..if Lebron wants to come back next season, we are going to pay him 50M period, whether he had the plus or not. So just drop the run around and say you don't think we will. Or he would have taken the same deal. Let's see how that plays out.
     
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    I think Luka didn't quality due to lack of games this year (Newish standard to qualify for awards)

    I doubt Lebron meets the criteria for any awards moving forward even though he has been a career Ironman.
     
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    He can’t play both sides of the floor anymore.
    He can’t be counted on to stay healthy by playoff time.
    He’s no longer able to “will” a team to victory like he could when he was younger.
    He will refuse to change his game for the betterment of the team because of his Massive Ego.
    Because he takes up such a huge piece of the cap space pie, there’s no way to build a deep team with two way players around Luka.
    His time of winning ended with the Westbrick Debacle. Since then, we have been asset poor.
     
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    What an awful team: I'm going to have to leave Whitmore island if he doesn't put up 20ppg on that squad lol
     

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