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  1. sk2408

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    I think its Knicks, Wolves or Spurs for KD. The first two being more likely. I really don't know about Giannis, I'm starting to think he might be in Milwaukee for at least one more year. The draft is in three weeks and as far as we know he hasn't told the Bucks he wants out.
     
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    I’m just gonna say this.

    When Jerry West said don’t trade Klay Thompson for Kevin Love


    I see this as similar.

    just stay with me.

    what made Klay Thompson and Steph so great in their hey day Klay never needed the ball. Allowed Klay to just catch the ball off the catch and shoot.

    Steph could hold the ball and run the offense and dribble the ball.

    Dalton Knect is a beautiful shooter. Don’t let JJ Reddicks inept coaching not playing him fool you. He’s got great size and he’s not the defender Klay is but compare their stats after season 1.

    Knect is perfect for Luka like Steph let Luka run the ball Knect likes getting the ball in space shooting it. You got two guys who do that in Lebron. Let me coach this team. Let LeBron play the dRaymond role.


    Shoot if you have to get this so called big trade Reaves. But you can’t trade Knect because he’s the perfect player for Luka. Might be the difference of him signing here and staying here.

    Knect pulls defenders out to him allowing Luka to penetrate and get great shots. And vice versa. Just like the splash brothers. Just like Klay would do with Steph. It’s just basketball 101. When you got a shooter like that use him for Luka.

    that’s why I have no idea why Reddick didn’t play him against Minnesota especially an aggressive defensive team like that.

    Lakers would be fools to trade Knecht.


    Get your center by signing Capella and Paul Reed.
     
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    I saw something I think it was the Denver game. Lebron was out and Luka was out. Reaves and Knect went ape s***. Like Knect had 35 or something. Just shooting the crap outa the ball. If you have that kind of penetrating point guard with Knect he’s gonna shoot and hit wide open 3’s all day. This kid reminds me of Paul Pierce.
     
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    Let’s see Knect in summer league. I bet the guy averages 30 points a game.
     
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    I saw Klays second summer league the guy lit it up like 43 points in his second game. He averaged 35 points a game that summer league.
     
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    I’m just saying this Johnnie Bryant is getting that Knicks Job.
     
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    Honestly I’m looking forward to our team just returning. We aren’t getting into any of the big trades for stars.

    Kevin Durant goes to the Timberwolves or Spurs.

    We have a unique team the Coach Reddick needs to start learning how to coach and use those guys. Phil Jackson never had a problem with that.

    Start Dalton Knect with Luka Doncic because they compliment each other better.

    Bring Austen Reaves off the bench and let him run the second unit.

    And keep your depth Hachimura and Knect. Lebron at 40 needs to have his minutes saved for playoffs.

    Sign Clint Capela and Paul Reed or sign Brook Lopez. You can also bring Jaxson Hayes back to come off of your bench.

    Ben Simmons signed to a cheap contract to come off the bench and play perimeter defense.

    or resign Dorey Finney Smith. You still have perimeter defense in Vanderbilt 100% healthy.

    Bronnie has got to develop. Vincent we’ll see what we get out of him. But we don’t have to tear our team up just to get a need. We were a 50 win team. There are bigs we can sign.

    Capella can be that pick and roll player. He’s done that for a very similar point guard to Luka Trey Young.
     
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    You are heading into Kobeluka99 territory!! KobeSvtzr25????
     
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    He didn't get played because we had no big men to stop anyone from blowing by guys who can't cover the outside drivers!! Knecht has to learn how to play defense in the NBA. If he can even just be OK, he will be a starter in this league.
     
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    I post my 3 posts in a row. Cause I got good stuff to say and I add onto what I have to say.
     
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    lot to catch up on here, but i feel like svtzr's plan--while i like them--are ignoring our inability to accept s&ts--unless we let DFS walk.

    but maybe i misread those posts.

    i'm not quite as bullish on knecht as our semi-automatic poster is, but i do agree that the pendulum has swung too far the other way on him. i mean, even if he barely improves, this a korver or kennard level shooter within a year or two, imo. and that's not nothing. and i think he can be more.

    but as someone recently and many of us have previously said--he just has to be way better defensively to play for a contending level team.

    hell, even DFS is getting pretty borderline as a "two-way player" with his inconsistent offense. the best teams employ mostly two-way guys now. we play a bunch of guys who really excel only on one end (vando, knecht, rui, goodwin, gabe sort of). with reaves and lebron and luka, you say, ok, they're so good offensively (and none is THAT bad on defense) you can live with it, but you can't surround them with specialists--especially offensive ones. unless you want to go full dantoni. which could win 65 games and get upset in the first round.

    anyway, to return to my original point (and part of svtzr's ideas)--getting a mcdaniels in off a kd blockbuster is my highest hope for the summer. or something like this. it takes big salary matching to move these super maxes, which means quality role players are going to end up on teams that maybe just want to flip them for assets. we need our jrue holiday. he got boston the ring. make no mistake about it. that was the move. can we steal one?
     
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    Just yanking yer chain, don't think you are a creep. Better to have a rabid fan than a rabid creep.
     
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    Knect can be special.

    let’s see him in a second summer league. You always know second summer league.

    if they destroy it you know you have a star. They gotta show vast improvement.

    that means


    28 points a game scorer. 30 points. He should be cooking guys.

    all the greats destroy summer league season 2.

    Curry Klay Harden they all do it. Even second tier guys destroy it like Russell


    And we all remember how great Brandon Ingram looked in Summer league year two when we saw Magic with the famous


    Cut sign Jesture with his hands signaling he’s done. We’ve seen enough.

    I just need to see Knect in summer league even Cali Classic. Then I’ll know after game one.

    if the guy gets like 50 you know you got one.lets see what this kid does.
     
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    I got excited haha! I had some spare time and got to thinking on how we could get in on facilitating a trade for one of the big movers this year. I think we’re going to see a lot of movement and someone will shake free.

    I’d love to get a McDaniels just to help Durant get to the Wolves.

    Admittedly, I did forget the new caveats on sign and trades. Sigh, they’re really stifling GM’s abilities to be creative.
     
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    Knecht is a good shooter and he’ll develop into a quality offensive player. I’m not sure if he has the ceiling of Klay that you seem to think he does. Klay was the best 3&D player I’ve ever seen, he didn’t need the ball in his hands to score 20+ a night and he clamped down on your best perimeter player.

    A prime Klay and a serviceable center makes us a favourites to win it all, he was that good.
     
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    Feel free to edit your original post and add your good stuff onto that.
     
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    the cba hasn't really fully redistributed talent the way it was intended in part because it also restricts movement in a variety of ways. guessing the architects of the plan would argue that we need to cycle out of the old order before it works, but we're heading into an interesting test this summer. like are phx and boston actually going to do the painful things it takes (i.e., just lose talent for nothing) to really cut costs?

    i'm not sure anyone has taken this actual step yet. if the mega spenders keep mega spending despite the aprons and repeater taxes and things, i'm not sure the full goal can be achieved.

    all that said, i do think the new cba is making progress on killing the super team, which i think is good for the game. there are only a handful of superstars in the league at a time, and we need them not to be on the same team for everyone's sake.
     
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    I disagree. I think it is redistributing, which is why you have 12 teams in the West at almost the same level. Or you got 4 Conference Finals with teams that never made the Finals.
    And as you said, Boston and Phoenix which are 2 super teams built with old ways, will need to make tough decisions (which automatically brings better players to other teams) and basically can't keep those hyped rosters and build dinasties with it.
    I really think this brings parity and is good for the sport but I don't think the US is ready for it because media and content creators are labelling these Finals as a bust because there's no old star there.

    On the other hand, I also heard this in some podcast, but basically OKC was built the "right way" but they won't be able to hold the team once again because of the cap constraints, which basically means you can't literally build a dinasty because even when you strike gold in every move and do all the good decisions, you still can't maintain that team.
    I also wouldn't be surprised if Shai, J-Dub and Chet do an agreement and sign in amounts that allow the group to be together with a nice supporting cast and be forever in history in Oklahoma and maybe in the NBA. If they stick together they have literally a 10y window always contending
     
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    i'd argue that started before the changes, but yeah, we'll see if when the old guard shifts all the way out whether you see more churn at the top.

    or maybe it's churn at the bottom that really irks me. like is charlotte going to be terrible forever? washington? utah? nothing the nba has done has been able to make some of these markets competitive. tbh, the team most likely to get murdered by the new cba is cleveland, right?

    again, i'm going to believe it when i (finally) see it. i guess gs actually dipped below the apron last year, but i'm guessing they'll retain or S&T kuminga, for example. which will be crazy expensive and is the kind of thing the new cba was supposed to change. kuminga should be ripe for walking in FA, but only like 3 teams have space and his own team will spend like crazy to keep a third-tier nba player in the fold.

    is boston going to seriously entertain moving brown? are they going to attach assets to get off holiday? or are they going to just like, lose sam hauser (lol)?

    is phx really going to cut salary and lose talent in the process? i'm just not sure about this.

    i suppose the clips let PG walk. that was probably the biggest impact i've seen from the new cba, tbh.


    i'll be curious to see what happens with it. i mean, the cold facts are that some markets are just larger and thus bring more eyeballs. not sure how to get around it. weirdly, despite the discourse i think if it's anthony edwards instead of SGA in the finals, you might have a chance to excite more people, as he's just a much more fun player to watch (i find SGA pretty hard to watch a lot of the time, like kawhi--effective but yuck). iow, it's not just market size, but man, if ant played in ny, la, or chicago...
     

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