Austin Reaves Discussion: How Much Is He Worth?

interestingly, trey murphy has never really graded out well defensively (actually been pretty terrible the last two years). but yeah, i think it's close enough that NO wouldn't add missi without getting something back.

again, though, murphy isn't a secondary creator, so now we have to go find one. people have been talking about coby white a lot...but is he good enough to be the second guy in that role on a team with title aspirations? i'm dubious. especially given we have a bunch of folks who think reaves isn't (he's much better at it than white).

i don't think the wolves make that move. i don't like the knicks one at all, tbh. people don't want to pay reaves 41m but do want to pay bridges more than that? he had a bounce back year this year, but i don't trust it, tbh.

i have a really hard time finding a trade i like for reaves that i think the other team would make.

 

I think Robinson could be had through free agency. He only makes 12M, and I don't think anyone is going to get into a bidding war over him. I think he can be had at around 14M or less.

I can see us offering a FRP plus Dalton for Missi. He's still a raw prospect, so I don't think the Pelicans are in a position to demand anything more than a late rd FRP.

Williams is on a 13M contract and with his injury history, I definitely think his free agent number will be lower than Robinson. Under 10M.

I like Coby White replacing Luke, not Austin. He's also at 12M. I would go higher for him, up to 20M. He gives us a more dynamic offensive player, with a good handle off the bench.

I'd offer Ayo the same 20M..Minnesota might be interested in making another move elsewhere.

I'd offer the same 20M for CJ McCollum. He can still ball, but I don't think anyone is going too high on him, for multiple years, because he's already 35. I keep seeing 2 years , 35-40M being floated for him.

Grimes is probably available for less than 20M. He's another decent young guy, but does his body of work demand some kind of big long-term deal?. I don't think so, and Phil probably isn't getting into a bidding war over him either.

So I don't feel like we have to shoot for another potential star, because that guy might not be available. However if we think Watson is a good idea at 30M...I 'm pointing out, that we could get two rotation players at around the same price or up to 32-34M. Let Maxi and Luke walk , and replace them with two guys from the above. I think we got better off the bench.

Now we still have our draft capital, unless we got Missi. If we went that route, we can spend more on another guard, and then look at a cheap wing like Oubre, or Thybulle, and bring in 3 guys.

For a trade, I keep circling PJ Washington because he's on a longterm deal at 19M, and Vando/Jake would match salaries, allowing the Mavs to get out of that contract, while having expiring contracts to pair with Kyrie, and either save that cap space or make a big trade.

Ideally..I'd try to flip a future FRP to one of the teams, that have multiple FRP in this upcoming draft...(Memphis, Chicago, Brooklyn or OKC? ) for an extra FRP in this draft. Then burn one on Missi and draft our own prospect.

That's a prety good bench makeover, while keeping all of our core in the process.

McCollum, Robinson,Washington, draft pick

Missi, White, Thybulle, Washington, draft pick

Grimes, Missi, Washington, Oubre, draft pick

McCollum, Thybulle, Missi, Washington , draft pick.

Or let's go the cheap route..

Ellis, Missi, Washington, draft pick. If we did that we could pay Smart, Rui and Ayton a little more.

Give me any of these, bringing back, Lebron,Rui, Smart and Ayton. Then go over the cap for Austin . I'd rather keep Ayton but if it saved a few dollars, I could live with Hayes instead.

That's a legit title contender. I'll leave it up to the cap gurus like Svtzr, Showtime24, Abeer, and others to work out the numbers for me! I gave you the blueprint.

 

There is absolutely no way NYC or Minny do those trades.
Less than Zero.
The other one makes us worse.

 

Maybe Dallas will trade us Luka Doncic for AD and Max Christie

 

Come on, never gonna happen, it would be incredibly stupid of them!!!

 

Yeah, because these trades happen every season for us.
Let’s count on this happening again.

 

The above trades are not even close to the thievery of the Luka trade

 

So, your argument is that we wish on a star that a trade in which the entire NBA thinks is fake because of how crazy it is, is your plan?

 

I don’t think any of those teams do those trades, most of our fan base doesn’t either. That’s the whole point, it’s probably close to a fair deal when no one is happy.

Personally, I’d only consider the Minnesota one. If I’m trading Reaves it’s going to be for someone like Brown or Giannis. Otherwise just forget it.

 

Brown? Sure. Only one massive problem- the Lakers and Bawstun will never complete a huge trade like that together. Never.
Giannis? Awful fit with Luka for so many reasons already outlined here before.
I would consider the Minny one, but the Wolves GM wouldn’t.

 

Brown might be traded for Giannis. Only way we get Brown is being the third team in a deal like that.

Mil could get 1-2 firsts from Boston and 2-3 from us plus Reaves who could get another 2. It’s not a bad outcome, 5-7 firsts for Giannis.

I don’t think Giannis wants to be a 2nd fiddle to Luka. But if he did and we could get it done, you probably have to do it.

Minnesota will trade Randle before they do McDaniels, unless they go for Giannis and maybe trade both to get him.

 

You’re the king of missing the point I’ll leave it there

 

And you are the Queen of nonsensical trades who can’t ever back up the hot air he’s spewing.

 

Really hope AR plays better in the 2nd half33% and 20% is pretty bad

 

if Reaves is not getting calls, he's still extremely ineffective at getting to the basket.

Regardless of how much he scores, I'm really not convinced by him as the primary ball handler in these playoffs

 

Because of his lack of quickness and athleticism he has to rely on dribbling histrionics to get free and that’s very tough to do on a consistent basis for him

 

would make more sense to keep Bron around as a secondary ball handler than Reaves. Bron is old, but he's still big and strong and can still make plays, bully defenders, and occasionally get stops and rebounds.

Reaves offers none of that

 

Might be better to try and S&T both AR and LeBron and make this a Luka centric team as soon as possible

 

Here we go again...