Austin Reaves Discussion: How Much Is He Worth?

marks on reaves:

i've said a max declining deal seemed fair to both sides. this doesn't get him down to the 35m that people want going forward, but i think it gets close enough.

 

I'm good with those numbers.
A declining deal is definitely the best option for AR as it doesn't impact our flexibility now and helps us in the future.

While Smart, Bron, Rui or Kennard we are better having the opposite, as the number that matters the most is the one this year as it impacts our cap space.

Good to know we have a NASA engineer helping out

 

If you're going to attempt a trade, you should stay below the first apron. So having less on Reaves wage could help out this way as well.

As an example: we have 33.2 in tradable assets - NSJ (2.5), Knecht (4.2), Jake (6), Ayton (8.1 - if he opts in) and Vando (12.4). You could put together two trades Knecht + Vando (16.6) and Ayton, Jake & NSJ (16.6) and bring back up to an extra 7.6m in each trade - so two trades at 24.2m. Having Reaves at a lower wage could help - regardless if you're building a team above or below the apron.

 

I'm sure the FO wouldn't mind going above the apron if we are a surefire contender. Unfortunately we aren't there yet.

 

There are certain rules where teams above the apron can’t take back more salary and/or players etc. also use the full MLE caps you at the first apron too.

I think next year we could blow past the apron if convince a few teams to take less this coming season.

 

i think you mean players, and most definitely. anyone to whom we have any sort of extra rights to could see a deferred payday.

i just don't think reaves is the right candidate for it. vets who have made more money and might want to preserve rights strategically make more sense to me than a guy heading into likely the only big UFA payday of his career.

but lebron, smart, rui, kennard, maybe even hayes (though he's another case i'm not as sure about)--they should consider the potential benefits of what could happen should they prove to be a valuable part of a contender next year when we may not be as hemmed in by aprons.

 

$38 million? Better hope he keeps balling out and we can trade that contract down the line if need be...

 

As VLF said in the LG thread, you can't lose him because we're asset poor, if he's at $40 million, it wouldn't surprise me.

Surprised me that Brooklyn is a team that would be a threat for him.

 

doesn't surprise me. bkn's been trying to draft a player as good as him for years. they'd gladly take one into space, even on an overpay.

 

IDK. Maybe they think he's a good building block to add to their collection of garbage.

 

I have a hard time with 40 mil, but he’s an asset you can’t lose for nothing. Def signing him.

 

he definitely needs to get a new contract
see he can't even afford to get a good haircut and his girlfriend probably ordered a cake on BNPL six month plan

 

He got the birthday discount at Great Clips, probably on top of the $9.99 mail flyer. Hell, they might have paid him for the cut when it was all said and done.

 

It’s cool to see Rich people acting like normal people. Stay humble AR! Love it.

 

I might have to take this back. Jdub has been injured for over a year now. He might be broken. As for Chet, I can't stand players that fold under pressure. He took 2 shots in a Game 7 and averaged 10 pts for the series. Imagine the backlash if that were AR.

 

My first thought is that he is in a different timeline. They're like 3 to 5 years away of being anything close to relevant as they have no young player with high potential, they have been drafting pretty bad.

But then remembered the change on the lottery and they might go for it. AR isn't good enough to take them to the play-in but it would help them not being bad enough and stay out of the bottom 3. With their current group they are a lock in the bottom 3, imo.

The changes in the lottery changes the landscape of how the tanking teams operate and AR may very well be one of the beneficiaries of that.

 

i'll get tarred and feathered here, but in the eastern conference...are you sure reaves can't take the nets to the play-in?

claxton/sharpe
clowney/mann
mpj/agbaji
reaves/z. williams
one of their 11 million young guards hits lol?

reaves getting his own team could end up looking like when steve nash left dallas, tbh. not the first time i've mentioned this scenario, and for good reason.

 

East is not top heavy but is mid heavy. And at least Indiana and Washington are rising up from this year's lottery teams.

You got Knicks, Cavs, Detroit, Boston, Atlanta, Toronto, Philly, Orlando, Charlotte, Indiana, Wizs, Miami. That's already 12 teams that on paper are better.
Then Bucks should be awful if Giannis leaves and Chicago is kind of a mess but pretty much on par with that team.

Actually by making this list, the East may be a bloodbath to get to the playoffs and some good teams are likely getting a top pick.
The Nets start the offseason as clearly the worse team.
Wondering if this affects Bucks' negotiations as they can't afford to be that bad so they likely will push to get good players for Giannis (which takes us completely out of the equation btw)