Head Coach JJ Redick Discussion: Spazzing Out

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  1. LTLakerFan

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    Agree but am curious how “that” came about. Like out of the blue JJ in the timeout suddenly says, “Hey Greg why don’t you draw up this play”? Or Greg pressed for it because of …… ?
     
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    Before all that, James was an option who got fouled (no call). He drew Banchero (?) who thought it would be a similar play. Kudos to Old Man River...
     
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    It was another great play, Luka would have had a wide open shot to tie

     
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    JJ is becoming Thibs - he's going to run these guys into the ground.

    I get it without Smart and Jake season nose-diving and you need to win games but other coaches get minutes for guys. Go double big, play Bufkin whose had NBA minutes do something to preserve these guys
     
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    Yeah I hate it and for me it shows lack of coach's ability.
    Boston keep playing guys like Scheierman or made Queta a solid NBA center after years in the g-league. There's ton of examples across the league, there's no excuse to not play with a larger squad in these games

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    totally agree here. the system building and confidence therein...i'm a bit envious. like baylor scheierman would have been cut twice here by now, lol.
     
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    JJ offensive sets are really good

    This and his weird amoeba zone/man hybrid defense have been real great coaching moves
     
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    And yet here we are. My question is why were any of those guys still in the game down 30?
     
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    Luka had a game off against Washington and was at 20 something minutes. He actually had a good chunk of rest right before this game.

    The thing is, the hamstring is responsible for deceleration and that’s really one of Luka’s secret weapons, he decelerates extremely quickly. That style is going to put pressure on his hamstring. He may become a glass cannon as a result of that. Kawhi is one, and he got a few rings, we just need to build well around him and keep him healthy for the playoffs.

    But it does mean he may not get his coveted MVP. Embiid is a glass cannon that got his mvp but maybe as a result burnt out his career getting it - I don’t want that for Luka.
     
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    Really hate the narrative of blaming him. 100% of coaches would have done the same. It's unprecedented to quit at half time. And I'm pretty sure he would get hate for that too.
    Especially being a key matchup for us, you use that Q3 to try to have a more even matchup, build some confidence back so you don't go to the next matchup against them and a potential series with a feeling of defeat and that there's nothing you can do.

    Plus, the medical team cleared him and Luka wanted to play. He doesn't have to have a crystal ball and predict the future.

    Yes, he needs to manage better the stars minutes, but this hindsight view that he should have sit him in halftime is absurd and just shows how much people talk about basketball but either don't watch it or want to create a buzz on purpose, regardless of the sense it makes
     
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    I’ve watched and participated in a lot basketball over the years, and still say JJ’s an idiot for his penchant for not having patience to develop young talent, his ironclad 9 man rotation and not waving the white flag at OKC down 30 with your stars still in. No anti JJ narrative is needed on obvious stuff like that.
     
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    Agree very much with the first part re: not mixing in young guys for development and playing main guys too many minutes, but no way with quitting at the half in that game for all the reasons @pika1708 gave above.
     
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    luka can't average 36+mpg next year. figure it out.

    kawhi plays 32. jaylen brown plays 34. most stars are in that range. stars that have injury issues (e.g., curry) are closer to the lower end of that. the spurs play wemby 29mpg!!

    you can win with luka and reaves playing closer to 32mpg than 36mpg.

    and part of how you steal minutes is giving young players a chance throughout the season. our competitors have done this, and we haven't. we hope to spend 30 million on a guy whose team played him despite unimpressive production while that team continued to contend.
     
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    I absolutely agree with that. We literally had that convo a couple weeks ago are on the same side. And definitely a hot topic during the summer, we can't have our star not playing or being hurt in the playoffs, it now happened in both years Luka was here.
    Nothing to do with giving up on that game at halftime.
    No one waves a flag at halftime. Never happened. Even more absurd in a rival matchup in the buildup for the playoffs. Just talking about that.

    Any arguments regarding JJ playing stars too many minutes or not giving time to young guys are all warranted and I've said it here already too. Just heavily disagree with any criticism on playing Luka that Q3 when no one on earth would have made that decision at that time
     
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    Called it weeks ago not only did he overplay these guys but why the f*** did they keep Austin in the game AFTER he grabbed his side in the f***ing first quarter.
    I think JJ is a solid coach but hopefully he learns from this joke of game management against OKC. f***ing so stupid - guys hurt in the first quarter and you keep playing them during a f***ing beat down
     
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    I fully expect him to play Bron 40+ mins/game from here on out...
     
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    Sad part is even a 35 yo lebron could have won the first round series playing 40mpg but not a 41 yo lebron
     
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    Good thing JJ has our young guys off the bench ready to go.
    :Crazyartest:
     
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