Jarred Vanderbilt Discussion: The Vandalorian

Let’s see if JJ has the stomach to do it to Rui in a career contract year (beaks into 20Ms now or never … and highly unlikely, maybe for even more than making now) …. and if he responds the same way.

 

Strangely enough, do you consider asking Reaves to come off the bench with him, but maybe close out the game?

We definitely have some roster calls to make coming up regardless of if there are moves or not by the trade deadline.

 

NO

Why are you trying to antagonize Zen?

 

Vando is a fan favourite and a really good defender - all of us like him. If he is shooting 35%+ from 3 and can finish a little bit, of course he can play. If he goes back to being a negative on offence, especially in the playoffs, then yes he is unplayable.

 

tbh, guys like vando have to shoot 40+ or better from three (because they are given ALL DAY to do so every trip down), or they have to be able to finish in the paint. his problem is that he's not been a threat from any spot on offense. he could continue to be a non-shooter if he was a guy that the defense had to fear would get a bunch of paint points, or was a passing wizard who could screen and find guys like draymond. if he's not doing the latter stuff, he basically has to hit nearly half his threes in order to affect defensive attention (like bruce bowen used to in SA).

anyway, this is why you can see guys who hit a respectable clip from three still be minuses on offense. league average points per shot is 1.09. theoretically, if you just left vando open every trip down, and he took a three, you'd be a below league average offense. this is ignoring the fact that this would never happen for various reasons. the point is a vando three--even if he's hitting at 40% is probably one of the shots a defense is STILL most likely to want to give you. then you get into volume--has vando ever hit 4 threes in a game? nobody's scared of this, so they make it harder on your primary offensive options.

and this conversation isn't just about vando--it's about any player that teams are willing to leave wide open basically everywhere. you better be steven adams or young russell westbrook or something.

i'm still a vando fan, but it is definitely true that good defenses will make it hard on you when he's out there, and for his entire career he's never been able to fully counteract that with his good defense. last year, in limited minutes he was a slight positive overall. last time before that was in 21-22 with minny. he just hasn't improved much on offense.

 

I think he's starting to understand that he just has to be solid on offense and capitalize on his opportunities and he can stay on the floor.

 

Please tell me I’m not the only one who wanted to see Vando lay Donkeyboy out after that shot to the head.
Have you seen Vando’s arms? Dude could do some damage to the dirtiest player in the League.

 

Credit to Vando for really working on his corner 3.When he makes those he’s a real value

 

Dude is a warrior for sure. Team attitude just changes when he's in there particulary with Smart together

 

Great game Vando

 

i feel like his passing has been there since he got here. he can dish off the dribble, especially dump offs and stuff. but teams started playing him for it a bit because his finishing is so weirdly bad. was nice to see him drive and flush in this one, even if it was due to a) a catastrophically dumb close out and b) gs having nobody on the back line to block a shot. but another time he got his stuff just eaten by horford.

 

Any time he gets an offensive rebound and is stationary under the basket, it’s automatic: single pump fake and then up for a soft layup attempt. He needs to just never go up for those and look to kick it out immediately.

 

that's one thing he should watch some draymond film on. draymond is a pretty bad finisher, so he pretty much only does it when his path is really clear or he's forced into it. otherwise, he just hot potatoes it to a teammate and starts punching nuts.