Dalton Knecht Discussion: The Struggle Is Real

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  1. ElginTheGreat

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    Yeah. I'm not quite ready to throw in the towel completely with Dalton. I feel like his confidence is shot but he can get that back. I agree that he's shown he can produce in the league so I'm okay with some patience there. If the right deal comes along then sure, trade him. But I'm fine with us trying to develop him some more.
     
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    It’s a good problem to have.
     
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    It would be a better problem to have if he actually played good. I mean Kyle Filipkowski just won summer league MVP here (he's 21 and a second round pick) - this is the level that DK put up a load of turd in
     
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    Yeah, it's bad because his play is validating the knocks on him from the draft. Streaky shooter with pretty bad defensive awareness and limited ceiling due to age and lacking bball IQ. Teams hold onto their priors for years even if a guy plays well in the league. Dalton is struggling the exact way a lot of teams expected him to struggle.
     
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    This is a tough one. That'd be another waste of a recent draft pick. Keep him. Hope he builds back his value by the trade deadline.

    But as it stands now, I'm trying to see a place where he could get consistent time on the roster during the season to build his value back? IDK.
     
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    welcome to most of the nba. we've been spoiled for a while because we kept finding late first/early second rounders that stuck in the league, but most of them do not.
     
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    I still believe in him.

    I wanted to trade him because we have other needs and he had, apparently, some trade value.
    Now, if he has no trade value, let's develop him. He definitely brings something we don't have. And he can be really important this year in games where 1 or more of our big 3 misses a game. The rest of the roster is not great in scoring after Rui and Ayton.
    He can also play larger minutes in certain games, against bad teams or teams less physical.

    He's a unique shooter and can ball. He definitely has a place in the league. But it's up to him to really show improvement in the preseason so he earns those opportunities
     
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    That really sucks about Dalton. I think we should have been more patient with him. Confidence is a real thing, these people are human beings, not robots. He had very good success early on in the season, at times looking like our next franchise player. Then when he got cold, he quickly fell out of the rotation, and we traded him. I think that might have messed the guy up. Now he needs a fresh start, and we are going to have to sell low.
     
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    Having been around sport for so long, the overwhelming majority of people don’t make the big leagues with absolutely no confidence. He can rebuild here, he just needs the playing time and a few hot games and the hype will be back.
     
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    I think he's most likely gone by the trade deadline but who really knows. Probably depends a bit on LaRavia's fit - I think he and Vando will get higher priority minutes over Dalton. But it's a good problem to have, really. I would like to see if he can develop here.
     
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    14 minutes of Dalton's rookie highlights mostly all on offense, and LOL don't know why the creator included one solitary play with Luka on the floor and pass from him to DK at the one minute left mark .... as everything else is pre Luka trade and pre DK being traded right after that. Still hoping he pulls it together again and shows good 2nd year growth.

     
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    Well my Allan Houston comparison is smelling like a turd that needs to be flushed immediately down the toilet at this rate.
    Not looking good for that one.
     
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    He's 24.
    I know players lose confidence but I think he's gotta suck it up and perform better. He's not a 19 year old prospect.

    He's getting opportunities but they aren't translating into winning plays.

    The defense is no good, the rebounding is no bueno, and he's pretty on/off with his shooting.

    I still like him as a player and think you'll get more to judge off of him when he's on the court with Luka or LeBron creating but he's gotta become a really good 3 pt shooter if he wants to get consistent minutes.

    Unfortunately, I think a player like Knecht would have done better on a team that has no expectations to compete and he can get 30 minutes. He's at the point where he's not good enough to get consistent minutes on a championship contender but probably worth gambling on in a team like the Wizards or Hornets.

    The worst thing for him was for the trade to be rescinded... I think he would have fit well with the Hornets where he could make mistakes and no one would care.
     
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    the botched trade killed his confidence completely. he knows he's still being shopped and will likely be traded
     
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    lol, he ain't getting traded now. his concern is getting jhs-ed.
     
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    Yeah he has no value now. He looked like an NBA ready offensive player/shooter last year for a stretch. His play in summer league and first game of preseason look really bad.

    He was maybe valued as a 1st during the Mark Williams trade, now he doesn't have value.
     
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    At some point you just got to say F-it and play your game.
     
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    some guys just don't have it mentally

    remember what happened to odom after the failed cp3 trade? meanwhile, pau was in trade rumors every year from 2010 or 11 on and he still went out there every night and did his thing
     
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    in fairness, pau kinda fell off too, and he didn't regain partial form until he moved on.

    i think more than confidence, it's fit. as others said, knecht just really isn't what this team needs, and we're in win-now mode. this is why the charlotte deal made a ton of sense for everyone. williams's physical had to legitimately terrify our medical staff to put us where we are now, as we basically just burned that asset from a team-building perspective.

    but knecht actually produced pretty well for a rookie given our context, and while i think he won't make it here, i'll be surprised if he doesn't catch on somewhere else and have the career i expected pre-draft (basically bojan bogdanovic). our issue is we're not in position to develop him for now or later, which is why i'm pretty sure we walk into any year wherein we have a 1st looking to move that pick.
     
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    pau fell off in 12-13 when dwight was here and d'antoni's d****** had him play on the perimeter, but he bounced back in 13-14 and his production was around what it was from 08-11
     
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