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  1. Cookie

    Cookie The Dame of Doom Staff Member

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    No Ballmer is rich. So he should be able to do what he wants. Nothing to see here…move along. :ADeyeshift:
     
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    Rui + Vincent + 2032 2nd + 2028 swap + 2030 swap to Miami for Wiggins + Keshad Johnson.

    I think Miami ends up settling for this type of deal. Rui is not a significant downgrade from Wiggins on offense, and he would cost about 10-12 million less than Wiggins, if he resigns with Miami for 2026-2027. Wiggins is due 30 million next season, and Rui will likely only command 18-20 million. Vincent is a player who they are familiar with, and who fit very well with them. They likely view him as neutral to positive value (for them). Moreover, Gabe would likely only get no more than about 5 million next season, if he were to resign with the Heat. Also, Gabe's unique connection to Miami compared to other teams increases his value from a Lakers perspective. In contrast, most other teams likely view Gabe as negative to neutral value. Miami is probably not super high on Johnson, who is just filler i this deal for roster spot purposes. The player swap alone could be argued as a good deal for both teams, since Miami is looking to clear Wiggins, and hey would at the same time be bringing back functional NBA players, one whom has prove to fit very well with Heat culture, and the other who would most likely fit very well with them, is 4 years younger than Wiggins, and about 10-12 million cheaper. But Lakers add sweetener in this deal to make it work, with the 2nd and swaps. Wiggins could be one of those missing peaces that helps a team get to the next level to win a chip. Think Mychael Thompson back in the day, or the acquisitions of an Ariza, Artest, or Dwight/JeVale/KCP/Danny Green. Wiggins is a solidified 18 point/ 2+ three-pointers made per game on 35+ %. For us, he might be more like a 14 point 2.5 + three-pointers per game guy, and with good defense, which is exactly what we need.
     
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    ….. ^^^ :Noddingyes:
     
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    The Clippers are not going to get punished for this, Silver has been laying the groundwork for that, and trying to distract from it, he seems pretty spineless. I guess that means cap circumvention is ok now, which will help us a lot when Walters takes over with his deep pockets. ;)
     
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    bingo. i'd take it as license to cheat and then gum up the back end with legal challenges.
     
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    Yes the gloves need to come off if Silver just sweeps this under the carpet. We need to cheat like there’s no tomorrow. As long as there’s no signed notarize contract with video evidence and filed under the state seal of California, we should be fine.
     
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    Ballmer paid 2 Billion for the Clippers. 400M for the Forum, so that he could drop another 2B for the new arena. Lol..you guys are tripping, if you don't think Silva is extremely aware, of the amount of cash this dude has shelled out. There aint no smoking gun, if it existed, it's been buried already.
     
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    Weezy Moderator Staff Member

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    This. It’s pretty weird to see so many reporters say it’s “just circumstantial”.

     
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    This is common knowledge for most I’m sure but I’ve kind of always wondered how electronic messaging, emails, etc are retrieved if a company pre-emptively deletes them in anticipation of an investigation …. so I asked AI. The same high powered legal firm is handling the investigation that handled the previous Clippers Sterling investigation and Sarver’s with Phoenix.

    “Yes, deleted emails can often be recovered even if they were removed preemptively
    . An ordinary deletion does not permanently destroy the data, and skilled digital forensics experts can retrieve it from various sources.
    Methods for recovering deleted emails
    • Email servers and archives: Most corporate email systems and internet service providers automatically back up and archive email for set periods of time. Even if a user deletes an email from their inbox, a copy often still exists on the server or in the company's long-term archives.
    • Backup tapes and disks: Companies frequently back up their entire network on a rotating basis. Forensic experts can recover emails from these old backup tapes or disks.
    • Local device storage: A deleted email may still exist on the user's computer, mobile device, or laptop. The files are not immediately erased but are marked for overwriting, and forensic tools can often recover the data before it is completely gone.
    • Specialized software: Digital forensic companies use advanced software to search for and reconstruct deleted emails from residual data.
    Legal consequences for deleting subpoenaed emails
    The act of deleting relevant evidence after litigation has been anticipated or initiated is known as spoliation of evidence. Courts have imposed severe penalties for such actions, including:
    • Adverse inference: The court may instruct the jury to assume that the deleted emails contained incriminating information.
    • Fines: The company can be ordered to pay substantial monetary sanctions.
    • Default judgment: The court can rule against the company entirely, essentially ending the lawsuit.
    • Dismissal of the lawsuit: A plaintiff's case may be dismissed if they are found to have destroyed critical evidence.
    Legal obligation to preserve information
    Once a company has reason to believe a lawsuit is coming, it has a legal duty to preserve all potentially relevant evidence. This includes issuing a "litigation hold" to all employees, notifying them not to delete any documents or electronically stored information (ESI), such as emails.
    By trying to destroy the evidence, the company's actions can cause more legal damage than the original contents of the emails, and the cover-up can be proven through forensic examination.”
     
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    So? Ballz is going to do WHAT …. take his team and go home if the Clippers are penalized?
     
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    No..I'm saying that Silva has no interest in penalizing Ballmer, without a serious smoking gun. He already told everyone that. Furthermore, there won't be one single owner that complains about it. Including Jeanie or Walther .
     
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    This is the your fall on the sword guy. Dennis Wong will be the fall on the sword.

    this is the striking evidence.

    Ballmer already got his legal talk with we don’t speak for what Kawaii did We aren’t speaking for kawaii basically dividing thier actions.

    The limited partner made the payment. So he’ll get the brunt. Season long suspension


    and multiple first round draft picks taken away. I think Dennis Wong gets suspended.
     
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    We shall see...
     
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    I've never heard of this Pablo Torre dude. I'm sure many of you haven't either. But what he just displayed is masterful journalism.

    He had this 'new' info since the beginning. But because he knew the liars would try and come for him with a b/s story, he responded with an even bigger story. And this one IS a bigger story... Because it shows that they knew Aspiration was a b/s company clearly designed to make contributions to Kawhi. You can't fake ignorance here. Why did you give Aspiration $2 million dollars, the same amount that is coincidentally sent to Kawhi? Hmmm....

    And they can easily figure this out... Private investigator, pull the company's financials, inflow and outflow, and easily see that these payments were made in-like to Kawhi. Documents should be easy to obtain since they went through bankruptcy.

    The damning part of this is Ballmer can't explain himself out of this one which means he A) Lied, B) Is incredibly stupid.

    The guy is worth over $180 billion. B) is simply not an option.

    Since he lied, the punishment has to go beyond the illegal act, IMO. Because it's even worse that you're being investigated, lied, and can no longer backpeddle. It'd be one thing to admit you screwed up, blame ignorance, and get off with something less of a punishment. But lying about it? Dude is just acting like there are zero consequences.

    If the league does not make an example out of the Clippers, I'm never giving the NBA another dollar again. It's b*******. Think about how 'scandalous' the CP3 trade to the Lakers was... and now 10000x that. That's what the Clippers are doing.
     
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    His name is Pablo Torre he was on a ESPN show with Bombani Jones Pablo and Bomani. Great show. Too early for its time. Of course ESPNS dumb a**** canned it.

    Both Stars Bomani went to HBO with His show right time for Bomani.

    Pablo went to politics. I’ve actually seen him gotten invites to his shows writings.
     
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    Ballmer can plead ignorance. He’s already started. His defense. I was duped. We were all frauded. This is fraud.

    fitting no statement from Kawaii.

    So I think you’re saying they just set up a company that they can circumvent the Salary Cap to pay guys. Why not do it with Paul George or James Harden.

    I think this company was like the NFT guy.had money big valuation and just lost money started robbing people to pay. And got late on payments.
     
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    Like I said this has uncle Dennis written all over it. He wanted to get paid. Calling employees to get paid. Dennis Wong makes that direct payment to get Uncle Dennis paid.

    because clearly nobody at that company had any money to pay uncle Dennis.
     
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    I can argue that Ballmer is dumb.

    if it was me. I would’ve just hired Uncle Dennis with the team you can make him community strategizer events special projects. Whatever let him work from home and pay him 8 million a year. You can’t tell me what I can pay my employees.

    That’s why I just don’t get this. This whole company exposes you to so much. So many teams hire homeboys.


    They could’ve done this and worked around it way easier if they really wanted to do this.
     
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    That doesn’t take care of Leonard’s huge under the table quantity. That’s already being split with uncle Dennis.
     
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