LABron James Discussion: The Final Year?

LeBron's career PPG is literally the same as Durant as of today. Imagine if he wanted to be selfish. He'd be murdering the all time scoring record.

 

impressive considering he's "declining" lol

 

From all those flops in those clips, he essentially telegraphed what his intentions were going to be....of course he was going Hollywood...why didn't we see it sooner?

In terms of the other stuff... Most athletes have douchy qualities. Bron isn't the exception, but he isn't necessarily the staple either.

We got players fighting other teammates...we got players wanting coaches and teammates gone/traded...we got players dropping offensive and flagrant language within earshot of children in the crowd...we got teammates supposedly f***ing around with teammates wives/partners...we got players flopping around like Fish out of water and we celebrate it when the refs fall for it, cause he's our guy. I'm not going to vilify Bron-bron for any of that stuff, cause our Lakers players have done some flagrant stuff too.... especially off the court. Magic cut his career short and Riles came into power how? Kobe vs Shaq vs Phil in a social media environment like today...how bad of a s*** show would that have become?

He's a narcissist, did douchy things when he was younger and will continue to make mistakes cause to err is human. But with the ever watchful eye in today's media climate and with all the missteps that could potentially happen off the court, what unforgivable wrongs has dude really done? But to hate this guy while we gave other Lakers a pass for probably doing worse...come'n man, really?!?

I respect your opinion Chief and I appreciate you accepting his growth and giving a chance to win you over...but to this day, I don't understand how Laker fans can hate him so much when he did absolutely nothing to stand in our way in earning titles.

Nike wanted it bad...so maybe it inceptioned the fans to want it just as bad...but it never happened. So why do Laker fans hate dude...has to be cause of the GOAT angle. And obviously that's where Kobe (and his fans) come in.

 

Not making excuses....just pointing out there's no disparity amongst most athletes.

He wasn't the absolute worst character of a guy either. That's facts.

We have athletes that have struck women on film and have committed murder. So scrutinizing a narcissistic douche that has made a school is a bit too much imho.

He deserves criticism...but the amount he got from Laker fans was honestly weird.

 

Yeah, I hated him (similarly to jerks like Harden and CP3) and I like him now.

But I can never love him like Kareem, Magic, Shaq or Kobe.

 

Im not here to change your opinion, Chief. But the content on his narcissism and douchebaggery is due to the climate we live in (social media with cameras and opinions everywhere) and the sources we get it from... did you really just refer to sirron's site? How credible can that be haha?

You absolutely can't love him like any of those Mt. Lakemore guys...

But I won't use never...cause if...IF dude wins 3 titles here and is either "the" man or the man next to "the" man in doing so, then he's encroaching Shaq territory.

 

I love how we're putting LeBron against Laker legends after 1/3 of a season.

Don't even comment on it. You could look foolish no matter what you say.

 

LeBron is exactly the same as he’s always been. You really don’t know what you’re talking about. Of course he’s had his bad moments just like every other MEGA Star but all things considered, he’s been a prettt stand up guy throughout his career.

He’s been under the microscope more than any player of in the history of the league so any negative gets magnified like crazy. Like the flops you posted. Yeah he’s flopped but over 16 years it’s been a very small part of his game. I wish he flopped more with the lack of respect he gets from the refs. They didn’t call it”LeBroning” because he did all the time, they called it that because he was the most hated player in the league at the time. And yeah that was also the peak for him flopping wise.

LeBron has always been loved by teammates and has given back to his community beyond what’s normal from stars. He’s been with his wife since high school and from what we know, he’s been faithful and a good husband and father. He’s really had no scandals at all and we would know if he did because any thing that has to do with him is a juicy story.

The fact that you take everything a guy like Chael says at face value pretty much supports my whole argument. The guy is more famous for stirring s*** up than he is as a fighter. I don’t buy that story but you’re free to.

Anyways, it’s a little ridiculous to focus so hard on minor mistakes LeBron has made when Kobe is so adored by Laker fans. I hate to bring him into it and I’m not gonna elaborate because I don’t wanna ruffle your feathers but Kobe has had some pretty major character issues to say the least.

Sorry but I don’t buy the idea that he’s a d***. Does he have a big ego? Of course, like every other superstar. My whole point in my post was that once you decide you hate someone, you only see what you want to see.

If Laker fans mainly hate LeBron for his personality and actions, why are they the biggest LeBron haters out of any other fan bases? Are you really going to tell me it’s coincidence?

It’s MAINLY because of Kobe. Yeah there’s a lot of fans of all other teams that don’t like LeBron for all kinds of reasons but the magnitude of hate from Lakers fans has a lot to do with Kobe-LeBron comparisons. And that’s totally natural.

Pretending like this isn’t the case is pretty ridiculous

 

So Lakers basketball in June...Dust off those car flags fam!

 

I'm just saying nothing will completely erase our past perception of the guy. It was going to be an uphill battle for him to make us fans.

There are more likable (less polarizing) superstars like Wade, Curry, or AD for example. Those guys as Lakers would get more love from the get-go.

 

What does that have to do with anything? Were Harden and CP3 constantly compared to Kobe in discussions about the best player in the world and GOAT talks?

Most people hate both of those dudes anyways lol