LABron James Discussion: The Final Year?

Some of y'all just don't see it. LaBron is essentially in a contact year and balled out to begin the year even making him a MVP candidate (Cavs scored 9 points in the 4th last night in Orlando, but early this year Bron was averaging 9 pts in the 4th).

He's clearly dogging it and protecting his future (ie looks at Boogie and the recent injury bug that's hit). He is thinking if Gilbert can't bring me help and is now interested in trading for the Nets pick, then why should I bust my a** and risk my bag for this dude? There was hope that IT would come back and make the Cavs legit, but when he didn't, rumors came out how LeBron was against the Kyrie trade. I honestly believe he wanted to give this a chance and when he saw IT didn't quite have the juice, he knew this season was probably a wrap.

Now look at George. He pretty much confirmed that he wanted to come to LA and Indy could make moves accordingly. When he wanted to do so, was LA a world beater of a team? Did we have stars on the roster for George to team up with? Yet George wanted to come here cause it was home.

Now he's had a taste of the "brotherhood" in OKC. So what would entice him to come home now? A "brotherhood" right here in LA. Enter LaBron.

You have to bring both those guys in together. None of them are coming in by themselves (ie 2max cap space).

 

since i heard my name. the roadmap for lebron to la is similar to lebron to houston, imo. you hope to get both to commit, then create a bidding war for deng/ingram.

to do this, you'd have to prove that you've set up a trade to move clarkson (i think this is pretty easy) and that you can simply decline randle's bird rights, stretch deng and sign george and lebron outright.

then both okc and cleveland are potentially facing getting nothing. who wants ingram? you're taking deng, and maybe even giving me something else of value.

i put the odds here EXTREMELY low. but step 1 is getting the commitment, really. this is why i'm bullish on lebron to houston. i think they can get that commitment while using our cap space as leverage (ironically). so lebron tells gilbert "trade me to houston, or i walk to la".

in the scenario above, the lakers say: we can sign both guys, but we'd rather be able to keep randle and clarkson and i'm sure you'd rather have ingram than nobody. the pricetag is deng. let's work together on this.

 

Just stop with the Some of y'all just don't see it. What we see is that LBJ has become a ring chasing primadona who caused that whole problem in the first place with Kyrie and Gilbert wisely not going further into debt to get LBJ help for last half of the season when he is clearly leaving. So it didn't work out and now he's torpedoing the season because IT isn't as good as he thought he would be, along with his other buddies he forced them to sign. This is the dude you want here on the Lakers. How do you know PG can even stand the guy. If he wants to be Tonto maybe he would rather do that with RW in OKC, who at least leaves it on the floor every night like Kobe did. Not this finger pointing and glaring at teammates who don't cover LBJ's declining a** on the floor. I get it. The RING is the only thing for many. I don't get the selling of your soul to a guy who is going to bring all of that same s*** here, with NO guarantees of a ring that first couple of years, when he will again have an out.

What is wrong with going first to PG at 12:01 after we've (health willing) closed out our season in strong next step fashion and telling him HE is priority number 1 to sign. And then asking HIM who HE wants to play with? Maybe he can't stand LeBron either. But put it to him first.

This stuff LBJ has caused in Cleveland this year is our future. It's what he does now.

 

LT, I stopped reading when you put Gilbert and wise in the same sentence. Your hate for LaBron is so strong that you're complimenting Gilbert...the hate is clearly blinding you.

George has more of a chance of coming to LA now with a star or LaBron on the team. As much as I want Jules to stick, if you give him a contract that takes up a majority of a 2nd max spot, imho George ain't coming.

 

So .... if you're Kyrie you're sticking around to be there in the rubble when James leaves? And if you're Gilbert (look I hate the guy too) you're going to try to do something that will leave you still stuck with a large tax bill, before the deadline, to appease James who you KNOW is not coming back? No of course not.

Every time I try to meet you guys half way (see my sig) on LeBron he ups the ante in what a complete deuche he is. Like what he's doing right NOW.

WTF is wrong with prioritizing PG, how all of this started in the first place, and asking him if we need to blow out guys he may want to play with who have their primes ahead of them, or bringing James in instead and moving those guys? If he says James at that point then fine. Stop assuming these guys are best buddies. If PG truly does want to be The Man then he's not going to want to be Tonto to LBJ here like he is to RW in OKC.

 

I prioritize PG too bro, but I believe the best chance at getting him is via LaBron or a trade for a star. A star (potential "brodiehood") needs to be here with PG. He was game for choosing us when he was in Indy, cause Indy wasn't a legit title threat and there were no clear cut stars to help him there.

He's got a taste of it in OKC, so the only way to entice him to come back home is to pair him with a star so that they can become instant contenders.

 

You go to PG first, you ask him what it'll take to get him here then you go get that. If it's Lebron you go to Lebron saying, PG coming if you are. Boom.

 

And I would say that you are assuming PG wants to be second fiddle to the egomaniac that LeBron is rather than the lesser of the same numero uno personality but without all the other baggage of LBJ .... that RW his new brother is. Call him first and ASK. The FA ball is started rolling toward L.A. with possibly better fiscal choices to be made following PG coming here. But ask him. The s*** show in Cleveland becomes our s*** show in Los Angeles at some point guaranteed.

 

The s*** show in Cleveland is happening cause there is no relationship with LaBron and Gilbert (the de facto GM that dealt Kyrie for the Nets pick).

LaBron stuck it to Gilbert by leveraging his pocketbook in signing lucrative deals for Klutch players. In his mind, that makes them even with that whole comic sans rant with LeByebye 1.0.

Gilbert is a joke and LaBron has no motive to do that Jeanie and Magic. Griff has said LeBron did not pull out his GM hat while he was there. So he's not going to be dictating those terms with Rob.

I have no doubt that this was LeBron/Rich Paul/Klutch just getting back at Gilbert. And frankly, I dig it!

 

Just looking at what the story always is with not enough help when he was a better player if not winning, never his fault, and how he has torpedoed that team from the start of the season since everyone knows he's going ring chasing elsewhere where the grass looks greener following the season. Kyrie gone. The guys he wanted to get paid now are not worth it any more and they're stuck with them.

 

Lebron should sell Gilbert on taking back Deng in a trade, "NO DENG, NO DEAL"....I'll throw Clev a bone and give em a future 1st for that.