Official Dc Thread

I'm waiting for the twist where this is a parallel universe to the one with a real Superman and a real Batman that don't murder everyone and hold themselves to a higher standard.

There's multiple interviews with Snyder from as far back as 2008 where he shows exactly what an idiot he is and how his future vision of the DC universe is atrocious. He's obsessed with "dark" themes of murder, rape, and other horrible and deplorable acts of violence. It's why he can't make a real DC hero film that truly represents the characters.

Do people realize that Superman is supposed to be a symbol of hope and freedom? I mean if you never read a comic or watched the Donner Superman films (my wife) then THIS is the only Superman you've ever known... a mute who bullies people around the world. That's her idea of what Superman is...

How about a Batman that willingly murders people. A Batman that uses a gun to shoot people even though Batman hates traditional guns because they killed his parents. I mean what the hell kind of Batman is this? Nolan's Batman was dark and gritty enough, Snyder had to make him a complete psycho murderer without any of the skills that Batman actually has. He's not a detective, he's not a fighter, he's not a strategist of the highest order, he's not one of the world's leading intellects... At least none of that stuff is proven empirically in the movie. He can't figure out Superman's identity, he trains like Rocky IV, he has kryptonite bullets but chooses gas instead for no reason, and if he were so smart why couldn't he figure out all those other things? I mean it's just awful.

For those accepting this because it's "dark" and "intelligent" and "made for adults", it's not! It's just stupid and ill-conceived. Well maybe it's "dark" but that's only literally. It's not intelligent, it's unintelligible. It's an incoherent mixture of storylines woven so haphazardly that they hardly make any sense at all. It's not "made for adults". There's not even really adult themes besides murder. In fact, this is a Superman and Batman movie with millions of dollars worth of merchandise targeted towards kids. It's not adult themed just because kids can't understand what it is. It's just too slow for kids and too stupid for adults. It's just bad. The farther I get from the movie the more I loathe it.

Snyder is the worst thing that's ever happened to DC and Warner Brothers. How that hack is getting paid millions to bastardize this property is beyond me.

 

Deadpool, a totally secondary character (albeit with a nice little cult following), had his own movie that was Rated R (and it was a pretty hard R), and it outperformed (domestically) the two most iconic superheroes in history sharing the screen for the first time together. This isn't about doing a different take on these two characters. I get it if you want to change things up a bit from the comics, but they are essentially different characters all together that happen to be wearing the costumes of Superman and Batman. Snyder and Michael Bay are essentially on the same level at this point.

 

Actually to me Snyder is worse. Michael Bay may be all about explosions but at least the characters are truer to their source material. Like you said Superman and Batman are just stand-in lookalikes for a couple murder-y superheroes that Snyder wants to make movies about.

I don't mind a different tone. Again, like you said: Deadpool showed the world a different side of a superhero movie and it was fantastic. Not everything has to be Marvel's version, but make a good damn product. I cannot understand how WB is allowing Snyder to film Justice League. I can't figure it out. This version is so preposterously bad. Someone on another site I frequent said about Justice League:

"Can you imagine the marketing for Justice League? From the guys who brought you Man of Steel and Batman vs. Superman!"

Oh I can just see the audiences lining up for that one...

 

Nah. They'll just say, "From the Visionary Director Who Brought You Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga'Hoole"

 

The best hope for the DC universe is to play into the idea of alternate dimensions. The movies they've given so far are a parallel universe where the heroes suck. Bring in the parallel universe where the heroes are actually what we want.

Putting Ben Affleck in a position of greater power is a good thing, but it's a band-aid on a bullet wound. Get rid of Snyder dammit and give us good movies please.

 

Whenever I want my DC fix I go to the animated side.

The Justice League animated show from the early 2000s is still my favorite.

 

Never watched it... any good?

 

Oooooh MM is awesome. Is he comic accurate at least?

 

There's a separate Superman on that show??

 

I watch Supergirl, but it's cheesy as hell. I can't compare it to the DC shows on the CW though, because I've never seen one. They did have the Flash from that show in one episode and poke fun at the CW, kind of funny that it might move to that channel now. I hope it does, it ended on kind of a cliffhanger. I'll be honest though, half the reason I watch it is because I find Melissa Benoist to be really hot, a lot of the villains are horrible and over the top. I do really like the main cast though, Calista Flockhart is really good, as are the guys who play James Olsen and J'onn J'onzz (yes I had to look up how to spell that).

 

Wow. I knew they were separated from the movie universe, but I didn't know they already had their own Superman.