Matisse Thybulle Discussion

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  1. 432J

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    i remember his bubble vlogs on youtube
     
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    What Matisse Thybulle Brings To The Lakers

     
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    There is context and you shouldn't just make assumptions. There's a difference between starting and the amount of time you play - none of us are stupid. I think he is an ideal starter and should only play 18-24 mins.

    The context is this: Luka comes out guns blazing to start the game and plays the whole first quarter - averaging 12 points that first quarter. Matisse is kind of an ideal guy to surround him with (and Grimes too), both of them should go all out for the first 6-8 mins trying to lock down the perimeter while Kessler protects the rim. I don't see why we can't run out to a strong first quarter lead with that tactic.

    We're talking about a guy who is a ball hawk and defensive playmaker, Grimes and Tisse should be able to get a handful of turnovers in that first quarter.
     
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    The Lakers' DEFENSE Just Became...ELITE. (BREAKING: Matisse Thybulle Officially Signs)

     
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    Again, I was joking around, any comment I made to that other poster who doesn’t like me and does think I’m a stupid person was directed at no one else. I still don’t like the thought though, because to me it means we failed in that spot, you shouldn’t be looking for starters with the vet min, your starters should be your best and highest paid players. We have gone that route for years, trying to play guys way above their pay grade and skill level, and it hasn’t worked.

    I don’t think we do start him, I don’t think that’s why he was signed, so I’m not actually worried about it, it just scared me for a second and made me laugh at the same time seeing it being floated around here. Again, I like the signing, but he’s a specialist, he’s a defender, kind of like Vando in that he’s mostly a one way player, but the positive there being he can shoot the 3 where Vando can’t. We need as many 2 way players starting as possible IMO, so we just disagree here, which is fine.
     
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    Checked his contract ,he was earning $33,075,000 with the Portland for 3 years with an average annual salary of $11,025,000.
    Lakers signed him for minimum basically has zero risk.
     
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    I have nothing against you man lol
     
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    Love this signing, especially if he can stay healthy.
     
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    This is a long one, I've seen a few clips from it making the round today but JJ had him on his pod 4 years ago
     
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    Doesn’t seem like a POA defender anymore, more of a disruptor.




     
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    That's fair. I like the signing for the money, though. If he can perform better than a $3 million dollar player, that's all I want. I also don't think he's played more than 65 games more than once?

    He's a good depth piece. Probably can fill in as a starter for a game here and there if there's an injury, etc.
     
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    Oh I love the signing, zero risk for depth. I’ve just heard multiple people say he’s not a POA defender anymore and then I came across that post/thread explaining it and I thought it was interesting. I just think our expectations should be realistic going in as well, if injuries have hurt what he used to be we have to expect him to not be the same guy, but still a valuable piece.
     
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    Good post.
    I liked that he works better in chaos, which I think is what JJ is going after. Heard yesterday in a pod, maybe was Pete Zayas where basically because we don't have good POA last year, we went the other route where we try to get deflections and scrambling plays.
    We do that by staying with our guy until he gets shoulder-to-shoulder, or one foot in advance and we immediately switch with the nearest guy (he breaks it down better lol).
    But basically that opens the opportunity to cut passing lanes and steal the basket, or at least get some hands on it and disrupt the offensive flow.
    This works by instead of staying in front of a guy (better POAs), we channel them to where we want to, so we can either disrupt him or get the easier switch we want. This probably gets to another level with Kessler as a great channeling option.

    This to say that Thybulle current skill and ability seems to match that philosophy which is great to see
     
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    Thybulle has always been a defensive playmaker as opposed to a strict POA or Wing defender in my opinion. Thybulle's skill is his unorthodox defense that allows him to collect stocks in bunches - with ALOT of steals, blocks and deflections. It's part of why I said he plays really random angles or jumps passing lanes at odd times. He has an innate anticipation for this kind of stuff, that you can't really teach. In the same way that Smart just made stuff happen defensively, so does Thybulle, that to me is it's own valuable skill.

    But no, you're probably not putting him on a fast guard and expecting him to stop someone - but to be honest, how many of those defenders are there really? The Thompson twins? Suggs? Cason Wallace? Caruso? Jrue isn't that guy anymore. Neither is Herb or Jaden McDaniels. Derrick White gets huge numbers put on him all the time. I really think you just need someone to do their best against players like SGA/Antman/Brunson/Cade etc then it's the team defense that doesn't let the rest of the supporting cast go off.

    To be honest, I really like our defensive unit now. Luka is kinda underrated as a steals guy, he is really smart. Reaves is actually a good chaser. Kessler is an elite rim protector. Grimes is going to take the POA assignment with Ziaire backing him up in that role. Thybulle will be a chaos creator for us in the same way Smart was with Vando as a break in case of emergency. I'd like another large wing defender, like Kuminga or PJ to take that role, but we have Jake at the moment which is decent enough.

    I'm excited.
     
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    Lakers Sign Matisse Thybulle: How He Fits & What's Next

     
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    He has a natural feel for it. There are videos of him deflecting the ball and even getting steals while being turned away from the ball. One can get better at D by working hard, but this you don’t learn. It’s pure talent.
     
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    Thybulle is a great signing for us. We needed defensive wings and were able to get one. Health is a question mark but if he’s good to go for the playoffs we are in great shape.
     
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