Austin Reaves Discussion: How Much Is He Worth?

We started with a bang. Rob is closer to being fired. That's the optimism. Not expecting a top contender? I don't want to win rings every year, but I want a realistic chance. Luka/Austin doesn't get us there.

Rob got bent over like he usually does...can't blame Austin nor his agent, but if Rob gets fired next year because of it, that's a start.

 

The terrible takes just keep flowing like the salmon of Capistrano.

 

@TIME I'm being good. I'm putting everybody on ignore. I'm not clapping back.

I respect but the rules of Lakersball, but I don't want to get into with people who call takes "terrible," or constantly flip positions.

My stance on Reaves hasn't changed, and it won't for you Reaves lovers. He got paid too much money from an incompetent GM, and we're going to regret this; Luka/Reaves will not win a ring like ever; you can kiss that goodbye. They'll have good teams, but they'll get beaten by SAS and OKC every year like just we were with Denver. IMO.

Sorry, guys. Again, it isn't Reaves fault. Blame Rob.

 

I don't know Lloyd, the French are a*******.

 

yeah, that's going to come back to bite him. like, if i'm a beat writer, that's one of my first questions when camp opens? could even ask it sort of good-naturedly: "hey, austin, about that hometown discount...?"

he should have said nothing if he was just going to send his agent in to do it without his involvement. and that would have been totally defensible, too.

he's definitely ceded the right to be mad if he's traded.

 

Most players say, I really love it here but I’ll let my agents work it all out. At that point, it’s like cool, let’s see what happens.

When you make a point to say, I didn’t pick up my QO, but I don’t want the max or anything like that, I jsut want what’s fair - well it has people like me thinking; you’re a really high end role player 35m is fair. You get 200m, we get flexibility, everyone is happy.

Instead your agents basically tell us you’re leaving for less than the max, get a PO in year 4 when you’re eligible for the 30% max. It literally was all about the money. Just rubs me the wrong way.

I think we have this season and next to contend before Luka’s supermax. And 3 years before Reaves’ 30% max. I can’t see us building a contender this year.

 

Who is this seriously and what have you done with Weezy??







Just teasing

But YEAH!!!!

And some people need to go back to Mark Walter’s thread and read what ultimately fired but in awe of him Buzzie Bavasi said about Mark! That he was the most “intensely competitive owner” he has ever seen. As opposed to @VincePT ’s crack earlier today that this contract for AR shows the organization is not about winning now.

 

i'll agree except if reaves plays his way to the big max, we'd be really good. and if he doesn't, he's probably already gone.

 

This. If he opts out, it means he overvalues himself and we get off the contract, he plays himself into the bigger payday, or he signs a multi-year at a lower rate for his last big NBA contract. I'm really not concerned over that option at all.

Barring injuries, I also don't see a scenario where his contract can't be traded. If all he does is continue playing at the current level, there will be teams in a year or 2 that think they're an Austin Reaves away from contention.

 

Unless he slightly improves and then it’s a really tough decision between resigning him and letting him.

The issue with letting him go is you’re over the cap and below the second apron. Once he comes off the books, you actually don’t have cap space. It’s one of the marks we’ve had against resigning LeBron. Well the same (or even moreso to be frank) applies here.

We’ll be between a rock and a hard place again. I’m not trying to be negative either. He’s going to be worth his contract, he just won’t exceed it. And my whole thesis is you have to build with value in mind since you can no longer just outspend everyone.

 

What a great story! His batch of games when he was running the show solo and averaged about 35 points was nothing short of amazing. He has so far exceeded expectations on him as an undrafted player. It’s crazy. Hopefully this all works out in our favor in the end.

 

FU Rob for paying this PO underperform, 53 games (Oh my stats looks good!) Reaves. What a f****** joke. F Rob!!!

 

"@Red: I don’t even know what you trying to argue. “Most of the way there”…bruh they needed the max otherwise they had no shot at getting Austin.

They literally have to get off 6 rotational players (Reed, Stu, Tobias, Huerter, DRob & Jenkins) to go get Reaves at the max. That means behind Duren at C depth…gone; their shooters…gone; their auxiliary player in Tobias gone; their developing player in Jenkins also gone.

Now they could convince some of those guys back on the rMLE & vet min deals, but you’re talking about gutting a #1 seed in the East and probably a collapsed lung derailment of a team that could have at least gone to the ECF imho.

Reaves would definitely be great for them…but there was a tremendous trade off that would have to occur to make it possible. You’re not simply adding Reavus to that team is all that I’m saying. We tried to preemptively remove them as threat by beating them to the max first. We won in retaining our asset…but let’s not act like Austin/AMR didn’t get exactly what they wanted either. Whether they used the threat of Detriot or not is not something we can conclusively debate. But we do know the Nets were supposedly a threat and AMR HAS sharpe as a client there. Once they were somewhat removed with the Jules trade, Detroit suddenly became a potential poacher our guy. That obviously came from someone…cause it’s not like Detroit could put their intentions on blast without a NBA tampering probe coming down on them."

^Vash. So, they had to do all this for Reaves? LMAO. Yeah, I think that s*** was a bunk. Woike is plugged in, but if my goodness, Vash does have a point. What a f***** joke. Reminds me when Jared had a good PO run and Rob overpaid his a** on a contract that we still can't get rid of; just unreal. Well, when we're bounced out of the second round, I'll bring this up again.
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