Luka Doncic Discussion: Lean Mean Slovenian Scoring Machine

Clowney fits the bill from the Nets as someone who is miscast in a much bigger role, if he can be the weak side blocker he has shown flashes off, finish plays and shoot the 3 only on good shots, he could be a really good buy low candidate.

Spencer Jones is another that’s waiting to break out.

Then you have other players teams could throw away like Claxton or Gordon/Braun/Dort

Heck even Sabonis.

Lots of ways to build a team.

 

Clowney would be awesome. Not sure he is a buy low, I think Brooklyn likes him and probably asks for 2 firsts. He has the ideal archetype of a 4 in a contender. I think he will be a hot commodity in years to come if he continues to develop

But yeah lots of ways. I'd really explore dumps of Braun, Dort and alike.

Very few teams can take salary dumps and some teams really need to do them. They also may know okc/Denver don't want to deal with us, so Chicago/Brooklyn may ask for too much and we may do it without picks

 

i'm not sure clowney is available even for three firsts, tbh. i wanted to draft him, btw (check the receipts...him and podz...we got jhs).

but i and others have mentioned john collins as an example of a non-center lob threat who could slot in here. i actually would love to get several clippers role players (dunn, collins, djj) as they all fit really next to luka, imo.

i'm still wondering if there might be a way to sneak in on the back end. chicago and bkn may end up renting out space, and we might be able to capitalize from teams that didn't want to help us.

so, you operate over the cap, but end up getting say, dort, for a single first and vando (chicago maybe already got two seconds to eat dort in the first place?). chicago ends up getting a 1st and 2 2nds to eat two years of sub-mle vando. not terrible. we could add knecht if they were interested (and their roster is like, empty, so he might blow up there!).

same deal with a christian braun or cam johnson, btw. all these guys can be traded by themselves with no restrictions after being salary dumped or traded. as milwaukee learned painfully, you can't control what happens once you move a valuable piece--they may end up exactly where you didn't want them anyway.

 

Nets fans aren’t impressed by Clowney, for every potential flash he shows, he has 5x the amount of games where he is lazy, a chucker, blows up the offense and doesn’t defend.

I think he’d be available because they’re going to have to make some tough decisions to resign him but he hasn’t shown much to warrant a large contract.

 

Ramon Sessions

 

Smush Parker

 

Yeah I'm onto that too but I think we lose leverage there due to our lack of assets, namely young players. Like Minny got Ayo for seconds but they sent Dillingham that is a young prospect, we don't have that.
In an open market, other teams may have better offers for Dort or Braun then us. I think a few teams would like them.

But yeah, it's definitely an avenue I want to pursue

Then I don't know if I want him ahah
It's tough being in a tanking team. From what I saw he was indeed very inconsistent and a chucker as you said. But I try to not read too much into players in bad teams vs in a contender. I rather try to read the archetype and how it can fit in a specific role.
I don't know if Nets FO has the same opinion. He is probably their best prospect in the whole team, no?

Regarding Nets tough decisions, are they there? I think they are basically in year -1 of their rebuild. No superstar or even all-star potential in the team, no one yet they want to build around and just a bunch of young guys that may become good role players but none is a star. So they can pay whoever they want

 

I don’t think the nets are highly impressed by him so far. He is a black hole, inefficient, extremely lazy. And like you said, how much of that is just playing for a tanking team?

I do think Clowney should be a 4th or 5th starter and focus on specific offense and defending better. But that’s worth 15-20m per and he’ll ask for big money from the Nets. I’m not sure that’s a decision the Nets want to make. I wonder what Rui would look like as a first option like Clowney had, is he a 20 pt scorer?

 

lol, hadn't checked the stats on clowney, was relying on eye test. the stats disagree hard. i retract the multiple 1sts and side with svtzr. they may indeed not see him as a foundation piece. i'd have to know more about the laziness, but just from a tools/skills standpoint, he's exactly the kind of forward that could slot in, post-lebron, imo.

also agree with pika re: the nets not really having to worry much about the contract, though. it was similar logic to why i said they would offer reaves a max (i made this claim prior to the reports coming out that were indeed prepared to do so and when several here were claiming nobody would). they just have nothing right now. step one is get something. anything. then build.