Austin Reaves Discussion: How Much Is He Worth?

Ha that’s an extremely low bar to pass

 

i mean people are bagging on reaves for being hurt while all those guys are always hurt, some as we speak.

btw, curry's health issues are very real and very concerning, too. he's 37 and played 43 games this year including missing the end of the year due to basically wear and tear stuff. at 60 million per, let's just say i'm ok with him staying in gs. if lebron thinks he'll provide him with a clearer title shot, he should go join him, lol.

the theme here is i don't trust old guys to be available for deep playoff runs. hasn't been happening much lately.

i'm assuming his max. so ok, in those cases, it's a 1 for 1. do you want kawhi given what everyone knows about him? you *may* get a toronto ring if both and lebron can stay upright for 28 consecutive games at the same time, but after that, you're in big trouble, imo.

we're not going to agree. i'll be shocked if lebron plays past next year, tbh. reaves doesn't have to get better; he just has to be playing.

he's not wetting the bed. the idea that he's choking is hilarious to me. he's coming off an injury and out of rhythm, thrown into 30+ mpg in two playoff series vs. two of the most athletic perimeter defenses in the league. it's not super surprising. i expect he'll play better, but i don't think you're going to see top-level reaves in this series.

bottom line is that i think you have incredibly unrealistic optimism about aging and frequently injured players. with the way the game is played now, those teams are failing. gs was totally stacked with that this year and missed the playoffs. i'd rather not waste luka's prime on that model. i'd rather see luka in an indy/okc/boston/det roster setup than a gs/cleveland roster setup.

 

I’m getting tired of the excuses for Reaves, he’s averaging 15 ppg on 30 percent shooting in the three games he’s played. If you’re on the floor we’re expecting you to perform. Especially given his history of underperforming in the postseason. It hasn’t been good enough.

You’re going to have to perform against high level defenses in the playoffs you can’t hide from that.

 

We’re talking about right now dude LeBron is clearly the best player on this team. Reaves once again is underperforming in the playoffs. It’s really not a debate that LeBron is the better player right now, he’s been carrying us the entire postseason led us to a first round victory over a team we were picked to be swept against at 41 years old.

Meanwhile Reaves continues to once again falter under pressure.

 

You have excuses for days when it comes to Reaves. Like c'mon man, the guy wants a MAX contract and is scoring 15 PPG on 15 shots per game shooting 30% from the field and wait for it, 11% from 3. He is 2-17 from 3. His AST-TO ratio is 1.6 so he's not exactly playmaking anything right now. He can't even play good defense so when his offense is off and the FT's ain't coming his way, you see his value immediately plummet instantly. All you have is an inefficient player who is clearly healthy enough to play or else his agent would have shut him down for the playoffs by now.

I repeat, 15 points on 30% from the field and 11% from three and your only excuse is he's coming back from an injury going up against elite defensive teams? Why do you think guys get paid max dollars? To just blame injuries all day? Dude is out there for 33 MPG since coming back. Again, there is a 0% chance his agent and management would allow him to go out there and play basketball on a contract year unless they felt he is healthy enough.

If LeBron doesn't play past next year, it's not because he can't. It's because he chose not to. That doesn't change the fact that LeBron will likely be a more impactful player than Reaves for the next 3 seasons, IMO.

I don't have unrealistic expectations of these older players. I just don't think Reaves trade value is going to be that high because he's getting kinda exposed so unless you're giving up multi first round picks for a better young player, you aren't getting an immediate better player other than by trading for players who are older but still better than Reaves. There is no scenario where you can argue Reaves was a better player than KD and Kawhi last season and you certainly can't argue he would be a better fit with Luka than those two. The only upside for the Lakers retaining Reaves at max is they have his bird rights and a low cap hold so his actual cost to the Lakers is much less than if he were an actual free agent because guaranteed, Lakers ain't offering him a max if he was a free agent with no bird rights.

I think there's a plausible scenario where the Lakers would be in big trouble if they pay Reaves $40m, he wets the bed, and now you're stuck with a $50 million player who can't be the second option and is clearly not the 1st option player. Time to face it, we may have overrated how good Reaves is. He's a good player. He's just not DYNASTY good on a contender team 2nd option. He would be perfect on a team like Utah or Memphis. I have no doubt he could score 30 PPG on those teams. But can he do it in the Lakers playoffs against the best teams? No, I have no faith he can at this point.

You keep talking about these players being old. Yes, that's the only way the Lakers would ever be able to get them without giving up picks lol.... It's a risk, sure. Just like giving Reaves a massive overpay and being unable to trade him in the future without giving up picks is also a risk.

 

Agree.Been advocating for 3 years to trade him,not because he isn’t good but because of what he would bring back.I still don’t believe the Lakers will trade him but to become a championship contender quick they should.

 

No.

 

yes, i know prisoners of the moment when i see them, lol. troy hudson for mvp.