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Turner is a bad contract for them at this point. Getting him would probably lower the assets we'd have to give up for Giannis.

 

Well I do believe that if the Bucks are really willing to trade Giannis, they are absolutely looking to get off of Turner's long term deal next. They only brought him in to appease Giannis in the first place.

Austin gets a max deal and a chance to be a franchise player, he's supposed to say no to that? Seriously? The Bucks are heading to the lottery, and will have 5 more 1st rd picks. I don't understand why people think, that they are doomed to suck for years. They are in the East, they will have the draft picks and salary to flip for other guys. I think it's a win win for everyone involved.

 

Perhaps..that's why they are a perfect spot, to get the most value out of Vado and Dalton for us.

 

I don't get "the Reaves wouldn't sign for the Bucks" narrative either. I mean, if he has the choice, he may not, but if they offer him a bit more money plus the franchise player role, I don't see why not.

He doesn't strike me as a dude obsessed with rings; he's undrafted and probably happy to just build some generational wealth while playing ball.

 

What big free agents have signed with the Bucks? Take your time and go back as far as you need to. Not even being a jerk. I’m legit curious.

 

Then why does Giannis want to leave? He won a title with them and would be a hero in that city forever if he stayed

 

This is all I 'm talking about here. The chip is the ultimate goal for me. This team is a title favorite for 3-4 seasons at least. We can find ring chasers to replace LeBron and Smart as we move along. With Giannis and Luka, I believe that we could squeeze two more seasons out of LeBron.

 

You don't need to rely on free agents to sign there, you have draft picks and salary to trade. Teams are looking to move players for draft picks in every season, that's the league. For conversation sake, I think Austin and Ja would be a good pairing, New Orleans might like some of those picks for Zion. It's not like the Bucks will be without options. The Bucks built around Giannis through trades.

 

He wants to win more Championships now. He has fulfilled his obligations there, he got them a chip. Similar to LeBron in Cleveland, he can always retire there later.

 

In this case You have to convince Austin to go there since he’s a free agent.

The point is just that the Bucks aren’t an attractive option to most free agents and historically haven’t been. Thats one of several reasons why people are doubting it.

One of the best players in their history wanting to bail on the franchise doesn’t help.

 

Where do you get your data?
The next year they have their pick is 2031. Until then they have a bunch of swaps where they get the unfavorable one with Atlanta, Portland and Pelicans. In 29 they have no pick. They'll suck forever

 

The Bucks have pick swaps, that doesn't mean they won't have a FRP until 2031 at all. A pick swap is still a FRP. They will be receiving 3 FRP from us. How does that mean that they will suck forever?

 

They weren't an attractive Free Agent destination with Giannis. Indiana isn't an attractive Free Agent destination..there is more than one way to get it done.

 

I thought we could just sign Reaves to a max and trade him with our cap space, absorbing the rest of Giannis salary. I know we can't package other players in the same deal with S&T, so any deal for Turner would have to be separate. Am I wrong?

 

I believe that you can execute multiple sign and trades in a single transaction as long as the salaries match. The thing with Austin is the Bird's right clause, he might not be able to get the full max because you can't aggregate salaries with him. If it's less than max then I believe that it could be done.

 

I just think it's silly to entertain bad ideas and try to talk ourselves into thinking they're actually good ideas personally, especially when we've seen examples of these sorts of ideas blowing up in people's faces in recent years. But hey, that's just me!

Just reminds me of this classic moment from a certain sitcom...

 

Name the similar ones that blew up, that didn't involve a catastrophic injury. KD going to Golden State worked out great.

 

Look at the Phoenix Suns and how they actively got better right away after trading Kevin Durant away and buying out Bradley Beal for a few roleplayers like Dillon Brooks.

Look at the Los Angeles Lakers going from one of the best teams in the league in 2021 to being one of the worst overnight by gutting all their depth and size in their various role players for an ill-fitting Russell Westbrook.

For the record, I don't think anyone here is arguing that Giannis is a bad player or that he isn't better as an individual player than the usual suspects we talk about as targets for the Lakers to pursue this summer. I certainly am not suggesting that. Obviously he's better than them, he's still one of the best 5 or 6 basketball players on the planet.

But fit matters. Context matters. The supporting pieces and infrastructure matter.

The age of merely being a championship contending team by frontloading your roster with multiple superstars and surrounding them with a bunch of mediocre talents on vet mins is long over now. The age of depth and balanced roster construction has been here for years now, and it's long past time that the Lakers started recognizing that.

 

That GS team was already stacked and deep with a finely tuned system, which the Lakers are anything but at this point.

 

Exactly. There are plenty of other teams in the league where I think it'd make sense for them to trade for Giannis and actively benefit from that move. Again, he's still one of the best players on the planet right now, after all!

But we're not any of those teams.

 

Ummm.NO. Bradley Beal had chronic back issues in Washington. I wouldn't have taken that risk myself.

The Lakers broke up the Championship team immediately after the bubble. We also played without LeBron and AD for most of the next two seasons. That's an overreach. Missing your two best players, two top 5 players at that hurts. Everyone

You keep talking about the age of front loading superstars being over, but you can't name one example that didn't involve significant injury issues.

So again..tell me your version of a roster, that would be better than the one I presented involving a Giannis/Turner trade.

I already pointed out that Denver won a chip with an 8 man rotation.