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  1. wallangong

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    lol no that’s a pathetic haul. “6 draft picks” but 5 of those are 2nd rounders. Green is a bad fit next to Booker and nobody wants to be on hook for his extension. Ishbia set back that franchise a decade.
     
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    The Suns forum hates this trade. Green is redundant, Brooks is meh, the 5 of the picks are second rounders.
    Phoenix didn’t get jack.
     
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    I think what I’m paying attention to is the youth Green is a tremendous scorer. Next to Booker. Phoenix gets younger.

    they get picks. The 1st round pick is good it’s still top 10. Im guessing that can be the Center from Maryland.

    Thompson is a superstar the Jamaican superstar. He was never getting traded.

    Phoenix that Bradley Beal trade might be the worst trade in NBA history. Literally destroyed a franchise.

    Where they had to trade Durant.

    Ishiba is an idiot. Everybody said Phoenix was winning the championship when they got Durant. Didn’t win s***.

    They had Bridges Johnson picks. How do you mess that up???? Booker.

    just goes to show you. Keep some of that youth.

    let’s see what this Reaves Luka Knect turns into.
     
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    a top 10 pick + Jalen green is more than I thought Phoenix was going to get for Durant's toxic old a**

    they can also turn those 2nd rounders into a couple of useful role players.
     
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    been thinking about this. what stat is he using? the one i like (D-LEBRON) has knecht as bad, but just sort of regular bad.

    for example, i'll use bojan again. in his rookie season at age 25, he was a -2.36 (!!). his next three seasons he got up above -1.

    knecht was a -1.07 in his age 23 rookie season (in similar minutes). this is better than say, age 22 rookie kyle kuzma (-1.23).

    everyone's favorite defender around here, dennis schroder, has spent the bulk of his career comparable to or worse than knecht was last year.

    anthony edwards rookie season: -1.51.

    trey murphy last year, age 24: -1.57.

    for reference, your really good perimeter defenders are +1 (jrue holiday) up to +2 (alex caruso, shoot me again, please), whereas your bigs can get up to +4 (this is gobert territory).

    anyway, stats don't capture the full picture, but i'm really questioning what's being used here to make such a claim.
     
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    Nothing like a smart arse letting facts get into an internet sports discussion. What a kill joy!! Everything sucks and you know it, come on and get with the program!!!!
     
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    There were rumors that KD is going to toilet Clippers.Houston is just fine
     
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    Not sure if serious. Your alleged "basketball history" is on the line here...
    P.s. f*** cupcake and f*** the suns as well. Can't stand either.
     
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    The problem is Knecht's age and his brains? He just doesn't seem like the brightest guy out there TBH and his age makes it less likely he'll take a leap.
    I like Knecht but the Lakers seems like a bad fit for him
     
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    Yeah, Amen is a beast, he can guard whatever. I agree with you they need shooting, but that's easier to find and they'll certainly focus on that position in the FA. They're a hot destination too

    Great trade by Houston. They needed THE guy and they got it without losing the core. They'll be one of the best teams in the West in the next couple years, solidifying their amazing growth this decision. Good project over there

    Suns were really desperate to take this offer. I get it, but it really shows how bad the situation is over there.
    How do you play Booker, Green and Beal together? Dear lord

    I would trade Booker and run this team to the ground until Beal contract ends. There's no other way out of it, West is too good for them to be trying to compete with such a flawed roster. Just take bad contracts around the league and collect assets as much as you can.

    Green is a great tanker too. Will give you plenty of highlights and high scoring that makes the tiktoks while your team loses
     
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    I'm going to look back when I get the time this week. It was on two separate pods he brought it up last week.
     
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    Houston just improved into a higher tier. I wonder if the Spurs pull the trigger and go for Giannis or Brown. Either way, the West will be extremely competitive again next year.

    Phoenix have absolutely torched their organisation since they made the final. I can’t remember a worse use of assets in recent memory. It’s negligence of the highest order.

    They have almost no picks and only Booker has any value on that team. In my opinion either they trade him or just waste the remainder of his career trying to rebuild around him with no assets.
     
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    i don't think age matters when adjusting to nba speed and complexity. it's experience. and he had none. what age helps with is physical strength, primarily, which he definitely has, but hasn't learned how best to use, particularly on defense.

    and he is a bad fit here, right now. but just chucking him in trades because of that is dumb. stuff changes. he was a good fit when AD was here, and now he's not. there's still a very good chance he's an over-MLE nba player in a couple years. you don't just move him to move him.

    if other teams don't value him, develop him--for you or for someone else. but don't cut bait on a cost-controlled contract for a very talented guy.
     
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    Most hilarious outcome is they have dump all their newly acquired draft assets to get off that deal. I can't see why anyone would trade for him or why he'd take a buyout for anything less than $5m of what is left on the deal (cause he can get the tpmle on say... Denver as the Westbrook replacement)
     
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    a buyout makes no sense...how many large, bad contracts are there out there that could be aggregated in multi-team deals to make this work?

    will have to wait for the full offseason to play out and see who "lost", right?

    does a beal for PG trade make sense? like westbrook for wall not so long ago?
     
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    Devin Booker will play point guard for the Phoenix suns while Jalen Green plays shooting guard.

    I actually think Booker compliments Green perfectly. Jalen can focus on scoring. He will have plenty of spacing with Devin Booker occupying three point shooting.


    Anytime you trade a Kevin Durant you want to get some scoring coming back. They get a pure scorer. Who’s under team control.
     
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    He'd be a great fit for this Lakers team if there is a buyout lol. AR and Beal backcourt would work well as Beal needs playmakers who are willing to keep him involved
     
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    yeah, i said earlier that on offense, i can see it working, but man, defensively...i just can't see how you work around this.

    and even on offense, neither is a guy who really can distribute. both are drive and kick guys whose passing is a result of their scoring ability.
     
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    Booker is not a PG and does not play it well when he pretends to be.
     
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    my basketball history is fine. When they were talking about the garbage Kevin Durant was getting traded for.


    Phoenix got a great player a former number 2 pick. Who’s one of the best scorers in the league. He’s young under team control.

    We can talk about this until the cows come home. But Jalen Green was the best scorer on the Houston Rockets. Just was. It’s facts. Look how he played against us.

    You’re trading your scorer Kevin Durant and you’re getting a scorer back. Kevin Durant isn’t prime Ron Artest.

    This isn’t Gianis where you gotta trade Thompson. You got Durant but you still traded Green.

    I would argue Greens another Palo Banchero. Pure scorer. No defense. And there’s nothing wrong with that you still have Devin Booker. And I don’t care what you say a number 10 pick is still a top 10 1st round draft pick. That’s capital. That’s what the scouts are for.

    I didn’t think Phoenix would get that.
     
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